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    Re: Is there even such a thing as "common sense"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    My view of what? The thread, or what diamond said?
    Diamonds quote

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    Re: Is there even such a thing as "common sense"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Diamonds quote
    Ahh, OK

    Diamond merely described how the conditions which increased mortality in NG (ex murder, chronic tribal warfare, accidents, problems procuring food.) were things for which intelligence could be used to avoid. In contrast, the thing that was causing mortality in Europe (ie disease) is not affected by intelligence.

    He said nothing about Europeans or Americans eliminating the effect of intelligence on natural selection. That's nothing more than an old trope Social Darwinists like to trot out from time to time.

    Intelligent people are likelier than less intelligent ones to escape those causes of high mortality (murder, chronic tribal warfare, accidents, problems procuring food..) in traditional New Guinean societies. However, the differential mortality from epidemic diseases in traditional European societies had little to do with intelligence,
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    Re: Is there even such a thing as "common sense"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Ahh, OK

    Diamond merely described how the conditions which increased mortality in NG (ex murder, chronic tribal warfare, accidents, problems procuring food.) were things for which intelligence could be used to avoid. In contrast, the thing that was causing mortality in Europe (ie disease) is not affected by intelligence.

    He said nothing about Europeans or Americans eliminating the effect of intelligence on natural selection. That's nothing more than an old trope Social Darwinists like to trot out from time to time.
    I never mentioned social Darwinism

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    Re: Is there even such a thing as "common sense"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I never mentioned social Darwinism
    No, you didn't and neither did Diamond

    longview did.
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    Re: Is there even such a thing as "common sense"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, you didn't and neither did Diamond

    longview did.
    OK but my comment on Jared's quote had nothing to with long view I merelky summarized what diamond said,, the two regions had different selection criteria

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    Re: Is there even such a thing as "common sense"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    OK but my comment on Jared's quote had nothing to with long view I merelky summarized what diamond said,, the two regions had different selection criteria
    And I agree with you
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    Re: Is there even such a thing as "common sense"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That's not what the quote you posted said or meant.
    Then why did you disagree initially?
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    And I agree with you

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    Re: Is there even such a thing as "common sense"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Then why did you disagree initially?
    SO I went back to look because I don't remember disagreeing with you but sure enough, there's a post where I quote you and said you're wrong.

    My apologies. I cut and pasted the wrong quote. I didn't mean to disagree with you. You were right.
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    Re: Is there even such a thing as "common sense"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Spoken by someone who has no idea at all what schools are mandated to teach in the 21st. century.
    Ok, let's think about it :

    - how much time in school is spent on critical thought? Maybe a section of one or two classes in high school?
    - how much time is spent on direct question and answers? The other 97% of the time?
    - how much class time is spent learning the skills to start and run a business? Virtually zero?

    Then with standardized testing, it's become worse, now you don't learn the subject beyond studying to pass the test so the school maintains funding levels...

    Now with common core, where you don't even have to answer questions correctly so long as you can explain how you came to the wrong answer...

    Or like the high school I went to, when I was in class there, it was one class room that was reserved for special ed... Now, it's an entire wing of the school.

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    Re: Is there even such a thing as "common sense"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ok, let's think about it :

    - how much time in school is spent on critical thought? Maybe a section of one or two classes in high school?
    - how much time is spent on direct question and answers? The other 97% of the time?
    - how much class time is spent learning the skills to start and run a business? Virtually zero?

    Then with standardized testing, it's become worse, now you don't learn the subject beyond studying to pass the test so the school maintains funding levels...

    Now with common core, where you don't even have to answer questions correctly so long as you can explain how you came to the wrong answer...

    Or like the high school I went to, when I was in class there, it was one class room that was reserved for special ed... Now, it's an entire wing of the school.
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