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    Re: In light of current events in the Middle East, do you think President Obama is be

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Putin uses Stalinist tactics against his own people when they dissent and he is strong according to the GOP.

    We are still at war in Afghanistan and against Terrorism from last decade as administrations have always overlapped in a "free" Nation.

    It's high team we readopt the Sedition Act we were forced to use during WW1 .
    The GOP would love to have a prez like Putin. Some conservative like Putin too.

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    Re: In light of current events in the Middle East, do you think President Obama is be

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I have to disagree with you when it comes to foreign policy..He is the weakest president on foreign policy in my lifetime........He is clueless on the issue and to come on the other day and says he has no strategy is insane. To tell the enemy when your leaving is also very dumb. All they have to do is sit it out and wait to you leave and that what the enemy did in Iraq......The mid east is boiling over and Obama talks about minimum wage and global warming.....
    Give me a freaking break.



    You are now granted a break from now until the end of time.

    Now maybe you could give the rest of the people on this planet just a little break from your BS, eh?

    Is that possible?

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    Re: In light of current events in the Middle East, do you think President Obama is be

    Since the question was "Do I think Obama is being weak" I answered "No". I don't think he is being "weak". I think he's befuddled and probably (and correctly) wants to get the right actions that will do the least amount of harm with the greatest impact, I think he's being thoughtful. Now, can that be considered "weak" by some people? Maybe.

    I don't want to see this country come down like Leviathan without knowing the risks, the dangers, and the final rewards.

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    Re: In light of current events in the Middle East, do you think President Obama is be

    Weak is an understatement.

    I think he's directly responsible for what's going on in Ukraine, Iraq, and Syria today.

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    Re: In light of current events in the Middle East, do you think President Obama is be

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    Weak is an understatement.

    I think he's directly responsible for what's going on in Ukraine, Iraq, and Syria today.


    If that's what you think then you're not thinking very hard, you need to rev up your thinking machine and put a lot more neurons to work.

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    Re: In light of current events in the Middle East, do you think President Obama is be

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Why do people continue to think that the President of the United States must remain at the White House...
    Physical presence away from the WH may often be required while on duty.



    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    to personally handle every foreign or domestic crisis that flares up?
    Some crises are so big that they obviously require the personal attention of the President. In such cases no other premise is reasonable.

    His personal attendance is, obviously, especially important when US military action may be required, as with ISIS.

    His personal attendance is also, obviously, especially important in the case of the the biggest crisis of the century in Europe, one which has involved aggressive military action by another party, as in Ukraine.



    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Isn't that why he has a National Security Counsel? A Joint Chiefs of Staff? An Ambassador Core run by the State Department? Why does he have to be in the White House 24/7?
    The entities you mention have no decision-making authority whatever. They cannot do anything. The decision to act is up to the President, and he cannot give such decisions the necessary attention while lining up shots on the golf course.



    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Because you (pundits) say so? Give me a break. Not even FDR...
    FDR worked himself to death because of the war, during which I doubt he took too many vacations.



    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    was in the White House every day during WWII. His Cabinet kept him abreast of events as they happened.
    Physical presence away from the WH may often be required. Leave is taken by most if not all military personnel even during wartime. FDR was officially on one when he died, but was actually reading working papers seconds before the moment of his death. The reason for this leave was not R&R, though- his health was in conspicuous decline with, among other things, blood pressure reaching the horrendous level of 210/110.

    See link:

    Health and Medical History of President
    Franklin Roosevelt




    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Such has been the case with every President since George Washington except he (and maybe Andrew Jackson) was the only U.S. President to actually be on-station among the fighting as the war/conflict took place.
    GW and AJ enjoyed relatively tranquil terms of office. It appears that the last two years of Obama's will be one of permanent crisis. That should mean permanent attendance on duty.
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    Re: In light of current events in the Middle East, do you think President Obama is be

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    We hear the phrase "peace through strength" repeated often from those on the Right (and a few Conservative-Democrats) and to an extent it does work. But only in so far as you can continue to instill "fear" into the hearts and minds of those who may oppose you. This is essentially what those who criticize Pres. Obama's foreign policy are trying to convince people about - that because he's not showing a strong military presence around the world (specifically in key hot spots, i.e., Russia/Ukraine, China/Taiwan and of course all across the ME) - he has a weak foreign policy. While I would agree with the politics of Pres. Obama's "war on terror" as ttwtt78640 describes it, I'd have to say it's a reasonable path to follow given that:

    a) our position on national sovereignty, self governance would be in stark conflict with "go over there, impose your will and bomb the hell outta them Jihadist rag-heads";

    b) Neither Congress nor the People have the stomach for yet another unprovoked war.

    c) regardless of your individual views concerning Pres. Obama's use of military might abroad, any action he takes military can only be limited in scope due to the mature of each conflict as most remain either 1-on-1 skirmishes (i.e., Israel/Palestine; Russia/Ukraine), internal problems (i.e., civil war - Syria; civil unrest - insurgency) or regional (i.e., ISIS/ISIL spewing over the Syrian/Iraqi border).

    To say that the world is coming apart because America won't get in the middle of any of it and assert their military might is a very foolish position to take. You're essentially asking the U.S. to jump into every "bar fight" the crops up. (Have you ever jumped head-first into a bar fight? Those things get out of hand in a BIG hurry!)
    Just noticed I had an incomplete sentence in my post. Correction is in bold.
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    Re: In light of current events in the Middle East, do you think President Obama is be

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    You forget that we are stilll spending billions annually in the ME while often funding both sides of those "regional conflicts". To say that the US is otherwise not involved in the ME "bar fights" simply because we do not include a miilitary "option" in our ME policy is also dishonest.
    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Obama is now firmly in legacy mode, wishing to be remembered as the POTUS that ended US military action in the ME. Obama is trying to spin that the "war on terror" is over and that these terrorists (fighting the great Jihad) are now simply a ME regional problem and no longer a direct threat to US security. Unless we have aniother "big" terror attack on US soil, or Iran tests a nuke, then I doubt that Obama will do anything but "assist" local groups in the ME to fight each other for power and continue to "negoatiate" with Iran.
    I'd rather he use a smaller military foot print that keeps terrorist groups off-balance ('cause you'll never really destroy them; kill one, another sprouts up in his place) and get those foreign governments most affected by their tyranny involved to clean up their own messes than to send our Armed Forces over there to fight their fight.

    So, yes, I'm 100% targeted drone strikes, air strikes and the use of SpecOps. As long as it gets the job done - kill the enemy - without costing many American lives in the process, I'm for it 100%.
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    Re: In light of current events in the Middle East, do you think President Obama is be

    he is busy trying to break par.

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    Re: In light of current events in the Middle East, do you think President Obama is be

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Not to sure of that.........Thanks to Obama we get a lot of oil there........Do you want to pay $10.00 a gallon for gas?

    Our government spend hundreds of billions of dollars, putting our servicemen at risk, and asking our servicemen to kill people vs spending $10 a gallon. I think we could cut back on our driving and/or choose much more efficient automobiles.

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