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    Which is more effective in supressing free speech:communism or political correctness?

    Sometime I ponder our judgments of other peoples on a whole list of things that if you thing about it, we do ourselves, but just approach it differently. Are we REALLY that much more different than the groups we look down upon?

    Today: suppression of speech through intimidation.

    - Them: communism or other authoritarian government consequences on free expression on things they want you to keep your mouth shut about.

    - Us: political correctness where social pressure is used to exact consequences on free expression often through employment security unrelated to the speech, the collective decides you must keep your mouth shut about. Especially troubling is when government seeks to codify political correctness.
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    Re: Which is more effective in supressing free speech:communism or political correctn

    You can change your job and circle of friends much more easily than ousting a dictator.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Which is more effective in supressing free speech:communism or political correctn

    "Free speech" is not absolute, and curbing "free speech" is hardly the limited to communism and authoritarian government structures or political correctness. You missed out on religious grounds, so called moral grounds, self censorship and of course corporate attack on free speech.
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    Re: Which is more effective in supressing free speech:communism or political correctn

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    "Free speech" is not absolute, and curbing "free speech" is hardly the limited to communism and authoritarian government structures or political correctness. You missed out on religious grounds, so called moral grounds, self censorship and of course corporate attack on free speech.
    What do you mean by "corporate attack on free speech?"

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    Re: Which is more effective in supressing free speech:communism or political correctn

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    What do you mean by "corporate attack on free speech?"
    Censorship because it goes against the corporate aka owners political view. Happens all the time.
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    Re: Which is more effective in supressing free speech:communism or political correctn

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    [/I]- Us: political correctness where social pressure is used to exact consequences on free expression often through employment security unrelated to the speech, the collective decides you must keep your mouth shut about. Especially troubling is when government seeks to codify political correctness.
    Free speech does not mean "freedom from private repercussions". What kind of person thinks free speech means "no private citizen can disagree or take action against yours"? It's not "freedom from private repercussions".


    Do you tell your girlfriend she's a bitch and then claim freedom of speech in attempt to avoid the consequences? Idiocy.
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    Re: Which is more effective in supressing free speech:communism or political correctn

    Clearly, authoritarian government dictates have a far greater chill on free speech than does a group of people exercising their free speech against your free speech.

    In the first case, the government simply rounds you up and puts you away or as in Russia with uncooperative reporters, simply poisons or shoots you with little consequence. In the later case, if you don't care about the group speak against your comments, you can continue to share your views to your heart's content. It's what makes the famous and shameless so pervasive. When you have no shame, like an Al Sharpton, you can never be silenced by political correctness. The only people silenced by political correctness are those who have the capacity to feel shame as a result of collective disgust.
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    Re: Which is more effective in supressing free speech:communism or political correctn

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Clearly, authoritarian government dictates have a far greater chill on free speech than does a group of people exercising their free speech against your free speech.
    Thank you.

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    Re: Which is more effective in supressing free speech:communism or political correctn

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Clearly, authoritarian government dictates have a far greater chill on free speech than does a group of people exercising their free speech against your free speech.

    In the first case, the government simply rounds you up and puts you away or as in Russia with uncooperative reporters, simply poisons or shoots you with little consequence. In the later case, if you don't care about the group speak against your comments, you can continue to share your views to your heart's content. It's what makes the famous and shameless so pervasive. When you have no shame, like an Al Sharpton, you can never be silenced by political correctness. The only people silenced by political correctness are those who have the capacity to feel shame as a result of collective disgust.
    Well said!


    And while each "side" blames the other, singles out one group - notice the reference to "communism", the big trampler of free speech, allegedly in the 50's, 60's and 70's. The US saw this a fact at the time, while myself and my colleagues were being arrested in US cities for gathering together and reading anti-war literature and singing folk songs.

    On any university campus, usually a haven for left of center philosophy, any pictures regarding a fetus relative to abortion is outright banned. \

    It is not any 'ism' in existence that has a corner on limiting free speech, it is a rather universal concept employed by fear driven people; from fear of differences to a fear of judgement to the greatest motivator of humans, fear of a loss of our security. The latter being a favorite of governments since man chose his first tribal chieftan
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    Re: Which is more effective in supressing free speech:communism or political correctn

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Sometime I ponder our judgments of other peoples on a whole list of things that if you thing about it, we do ourselves, but just approach it differently. Are we REALLY that much more different than the groups we look down upon?

    Today: suppression of speech through intimidation.

    - Them: communism or other authoritarian government consequences on free expression on things they want you to keep your mouth shut about.

    - Us: political correctness where social pressure is used to exact consequences on free expression often through employment security unrelated to the speech, the collective decides you must keep your mouth shut about. Especially troubling is when government seeks to codify political correctness.
    The liberals have their own version of soviet oppression: it's called shame. Then of course there are elements of them in media that perpetuate that politically correct nonsense.
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

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