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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    No it applies to defense contractors; such as, Lockheed Martin, now he may have been able to claim ownership of the Arc Reactor itself. however, any weapons systems that were designed while Stark Enterprises was under government military contract would be government property, as I already stated the prototype itself was built from the parts of weapons systems specifically designed for the military. Think about it, Lockheed Martin can't designed an advanced multi-role fighter, claim proprietary ownership and refuse to give it to the government and instead put it on the open market.
    Which is actually ridiculous. The prototype, at least going by the movie version, was built from stolen parts under duress in a cave in the middle of the desert. The U.S. government could no more claim ownership of the Mk. I than the Russians could if he was also using stolen Russian components. By the time he built the Mk. II suit, he had already given up the weapons business. The ARC reactor was specifically said, again in the movies, to have been an experiment in non-weapons technology, hence it wouldn't have been something designed or built for the military. Lockheed-Martin is still a contractor for the military. If they quit and started designing civilian craft, the government would have no control over them.
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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

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    What a contradiction.... have you NEVER heard of the Non-Aggression Principle?
    Fascist libertarians dont believe in that principle.

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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Which is actually ridiculous. The prototype, at least going by the movie version, was built from stolen parts under duress in a cave in the middle of the desert. The U.S. government could no more claim ownership of the Mk. I than the Russians could if he was also using stolen Russian components. By the time he built the Mk. II suit, he had already given up the weapons business. The ARC reactor was specifically said, again in the movies, to have been an experiment in non-weapons technology, hence it wouldn't have been something designed or built for the military. Lockheed-Martin is still a contractor for the military. If they quit and started designing civilian craft, the government would have no control over them.
    There's got to be a law about private energy sources with nuclear capabilities, so again I go back to the Arc Reactor which was in fact designed while Stark Enterprises was a Defense Contractor and I would argue that the Mark I design constitutes the prototype for the Mark II the deciding factor being the Arc Reactor which is the same in both. Furthermore; Tony is not using the suit for civilians uses, obviously.

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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    There's got to be a law about private energy sources with nuclear capabilities, so again I go back to the Arc Reactor which was in fact designed while Stark Enterprises was a Defense Contractor and I would argue that the Mark I design constitutes the prototype for the Mark II the deciding factor being the Arc Reactor which is the same in both. Furthermore; Tony is not using the suit for civilians uses, obviously.
    The Arc Reactor isn't nuclear. It was supposed to be an alternative power supply. It was designed and built by Howard Stark as a publicity stunt. It failed to have any commercial application, that's why it's just a curiosity running the Stark facility. Tony made it smaller and it isn't a part of either suit, it's part of Tony's body, hence the government can't claim it regardless. It just also happens to power the suits. And there are plenty of civilian weapons applications, in fact, the weaponry of at least the Mk. I and Mk. II suits are entirely accidental, the repulsor technology is part of the flight systems, it just so happens to be quite useful as a weapon as well.
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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    No, he should not hand over the suit. He made it, came up with the technology on his own and funded the suit. The government can't (shouldn't be able to) use "eminent domain" to take the suit if they had no part in the design or the funding.
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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    No, he should not hand over the suit. He made it, came up with the technology on his own and funded the suit. The government can't (shouldn't be able to) use "eminent domain" to take the suit if they had no part in the design or the funding.
    What if that person proves to be irresponsible with it? Other question: under current law can someone have their guns taken from them if they're convicted of a felony?

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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What if that person proves to be irresponsible with it? Other question: under current law can someone have their guns taken from them if they're convicted of a felony?
    So? It belongs to him.

    People are irresponsible with guns every day, and we aren't taking them away. The suit is a weapon. If I were Tony Stark and someone tried to take my suit, I'd sue him for violating my 2nd amendment right.
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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    So? It belongs to him.

    People are irresponsible with guns every day, and we aren't taking them away. The suit is a weapon. If I were Tony Stark and someone tried to take my suit, I'd sue him for violating my 2nd amendment right.
    If someone is unstable and threatens the lives of others, and/or commits a violent crime, I would consider it odd not to take away their guns, or their superior military grade hardware, for that matter.

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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If someone is unstable and threatens the lives of others, and/or commits a violent crime, I would consider it odd not to take away their guns, or their superior military grade hardware, for that matter.
    But Tony Stark hasn't really done that. He isn't unstable. He doesn't threaten the lives of others. He hasn't committed a violent crime.
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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    But Tony Stark hasn't really done that. He isn't unstable. He doesn't threaten the lives of others. He hasn't committed a violent crime.
    Watch the party scene from Iron Man 3.

    When I saw that I was like, "Alright, no more toys that go boom for you."

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