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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    If I was Tony Stark I would use the suit and force the US into a libertarian style government. But thats just me.
    So you want to throw democracy and self-determination out the window. Got it.
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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Yes, he should hand it over. I don't think advanced technology that's decades beyond what the military has is covered by the 2nd amendment. Especially since the government funded its development.
    Tony used his own fortune to build his suit, so no, it's not government funded.

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    Not in the films, it didn't.
    Not in the films or the comics, or any interpretation of Iron Man.
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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Yes it did, the original Arc Reactor upon which the suits power source is designed was funded under government contract, everything developed under Stark Enterprises at that time prior to Tony cancelling all of his government contracts was government property including the suit because Stark Enterprises was a government defense contractor prior to his return from the kidnapping and press conference, hell the parts used to build the original suit in the cave came from weapons specifically designed for the military.
    Actually, no, it wasn't. Tony's father was the original arms dealer to the US. He built the company on selling advanced arms to the US. He wanted to use the profits to build something for humanity - the ARC reactor. That's what got him killed.

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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Such as flying across international borders with advanced weaponry? Entering no-fly zones patrolled by the U.S. airforce? Or perhaps flying drunk as **** to a donuts shop in the desert?



    The suit was designed while Stark Enterprises was under government contract, anything designed during that time was built with taxpayer dollars and belongs to the government.
    No, the government contracts were purchase type for specified Stark weaponry (the suit wasn't even developed yet). Not for development. What Tony made on the side was all his to patent, keep and sell if he wished.

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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

     
    In fact, in the comics, Tony figures out Extremis and uses it to go one step further - the suit lives within him and is expressed at thought command.

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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
     
    In fact, in the comics, Tony figures out Extremis and uses it to go one step further - the suit lives within him and is expressed at thought command.
     
    Which was a really stupid idea, the real strength of Iron Man is that Tony Stark chooses to put it on, he's not a mutant, he's not blue, he doesn't have wings, he's a normal person who chooses to put on the armor and be a hero. By using Extremis, which I hate with a passion, he's essentially taken away all of the things that made him a great character to begin with.
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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Nope, he should be allowed to keep it but he should be held accountable for anything he might do in it. Destroy property = restitution and charges. Unlawfully kill someone = murder.
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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That only applies to the NASA, DOE and the NRC. You could do work for the government and maintain ownership.
    No it applies to defense contractors; such as, Lockheed Martin, now he may have been able to claim ownership of the Arc Reactor itself. however, any weapons systems that were designed while Stark Enterprises was under government military contract would be government property, as I already stated the prototype itself was built from the parts of weapons systems specifically designed for the military. Think about it, Lockheed Martin can't designed an advanced multi-role fighter, claim proprietary ownership and refuse to give it to the government and instead put it on the open market.

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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    If I was Tony Stark I would use the suit and force the US into a libertarian style government. But thats just me.
    What a contradiction.... have you NEVER heard of the Non-Aggression Principle?
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Should Tony Stark Hand His Suit Over To The US Government?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, the government contracts were purchase type for specified Stark weaponry (the suit wasn't even developed yet). Not for development. What Tony made on the side was all his to patent, keep and sell if he wished.
    It absolutely was for development, in the opening scene he is showing the military a weapons system that he developed for them under contract that they had never seen before and then made them a sales pitch, government contracts would have included R&D and any advanced weapons system developed when under said defense contract would be property of the government, Stark Enterprises didn't have free reign to just go around willy nilly building weapons of mass destruction and then withhold them from the government. Stark would probably have been able to keep the Arc Reactor itself because it had not military applications but the suit itself would have been government property.

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