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Thread: The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

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    The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

    Consider the following scenario:

    You are in a tower at a rail yard where you can control one switch. A train full of passengers is approaching the fork in the tracks with that switch. You cannot leave the tower or call anyone until the train passes.

    On one track, a person is tied to the rails. The other track is damaged. If you do nothing, the train will continue onto the damaged track and derail. Many of the passengers and crew will be killed as a result.

    If you switch the train onto the other track, it will pass safely onto its destination, but it will kill the person tied to the tracks.

    It's your decision . . .

    [Additional details: (1) Once the train passes the fork in the tracks, it can’t be stopped until it hits the person who’s tied up or derails. (2) Switching the tracks isn't actually your job; you just happen to be in the tower because of a set of random circumstances. (3) The person on the tracks was already tied to them when you got there.]
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    Re: The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

    Let the train go.

    Get it on video.

    Sell the video for a million dollars.

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    Re: The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

    This is "murder"?

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    Re: The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This is "murder"?
    Technically, if you flip that switch, you're murdering the person on the tracks, no matter how you look at it.
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    Re: The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

    It would be more of a dilemma if the person tied to the tracks was a close family relation or friend.

    Otherwise, the choice would be to save the many over the one.

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    Re: The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Consider the following scenario:

    You are in a tower at a rail yard where you can control one switch. A train full of passengers is approaching the fork in the tracks with that switch. You cannot leave the tower or call anyone until the train passes.

    On one track, a person is tied to the rails. The other track is damaged. If you do nothing, the train will continue onto the damaged track and derail. Many of the passengers and crew will be killed as a result.

    If you switch the train onto the other track, it will pass safely onto its destination, but it will kill the person tied to the tracks.

    It's your decision . . .

    [Additional details: (1) Once the train passes the fork in the tracks, it can’t be stopped until it hits the person who’s tied up or derails. (2) Switching the tracks isn't actually your job; you just happen to be in the tower because of a set of random circumstances. (3) The person on the tracks was already tied to them when you got there.]



    Send the train to be derailed, then go kill the man tied to the tracks myself. Everybody dies.



    Then hunt down whoever came up with this "dilemma" originally and kill HIM. Slowly.

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    Re: The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

    I choose to save many over the one. I would be regretful of course but if I had to, that would be my choice.

    From a moral/ethical perspective, there is not choice.

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    Re: The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Send the train to be derailed, then go kill the man tied to the tracks myself. Everybody dies.



    Then hunt down whoever came up with this "dilemma" originally and kill HIM. Slowly.
    That's a lot of killing. And blood. I take you are in the kill em all and let god sort it out mood?
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    Re: The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

    yeah i gotta go with the mr spock theory here

    needs of the many

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    Re: The Murder Dilemma (an ethics question)

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Technically, if you flip that switch, you're murdering the person on the tracks, no matter how you look at it.
    Murder is a legal term and it does not fit your scenario. The word you're looking for is "killing". Legally it would probably fall under "involuntary manslaughter".
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