View Poll Results: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

Voters
69. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    13 18.84%
  • No

    41 59.42%
  • Depends (Please elaborate)

    15 21.74%
Page 10 of 16 FirstFirst ... 89101112 ... LastLast
Results 91 to 100 of 155

Thread: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

  1. #91
    Sporadic insanity normal.


    The Mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 11:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,736

    Re: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Sure, if we're talking about something dangerous like dreadlocks braided with barbed wire, or something ludicrous like a 6' wide Afro.


    But not in the general sense of hair, no.
    At worst, a tamer hair (like a 4' afro? ) style would just be a distraction at worst.

    And frankly that might be a teachable moment - ignore the distraction and move on, mfers.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

  2. #92
    Angry Former GOP Voter
    Fiddytree's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    25,692

    Re: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    @_@ I made no reference to 'hair' because 'hair' does not = 'disruption'. 'Hair' is just one type of disruption.
    Unless there is an extreme example involved, hair is not a disruption.

    My comments were regarding teachers and their control of behavior (disruptions) in the classroom and the fact that I found her criticism unfair...and thus looked for further discussion.
    Her criticism was not unfair. It was spot on. Unless that's one hell of an exceptional haircut, it's absolutely a fair critique. If an instructor has that much difficulty controlling their students with the presence of a unique haircut in the room, there is a problem with the instructor. I had been told to step it up with far more than one student with a hair cut. When you have 25 students with emotional disorders, chatty friendships, and an afternoon buzz--Yet you come out the other side just fine, removing or barring a student on the basis of a hairstyle being"disruptive" is remarkably bankrupt. It's training and good management skills.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

  3. #93
    Ho, ho, ho.
    Superfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    East Coast
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    21,636

    Re: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Her criticism was not unfair. It was spot on. Unless that's one hell of an exceptional haircut, it's absolutely a fair critique. If an instructor has that much difficulty controlling their students with the presence of a unique haircut in the room, there is a problem with the instructor. I had been told to step it up with far more than one student with a hair cut. When you have 25 students with emotional disorders, chatty friendships, and an afternoon buzz--Yet you come out the other side just fine, removing or barring a student on the basis of a hairstyle being"disruptive" is remarkably bankrupt. It's training and good management skills.
    Exactly. That's all I was trying to say. I know a few teachers, and most of them have no problem at all handling unruly students. It's part of the job. Ask the teacher which she'd rather have - a bad kid with a normal haircut, or a good kid with DayGlo orange hair, and I'd bet you a nickel, the teacher will pick the student with the weird hair, every day and twice on Sunday. And again - if a teacher can't handle her students, she needs to get another job. Not trying to slam teachers at all. But teaching ain't for sissies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky
    It's easy to be a Conservative, until you need help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal
    After years of condemning Bill Clinton for being a rapist, Republicans apparently changed their minds about the whole thing and elected one of their own.
    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen
    Fox News knows their audience. Nuance and facts aren't why they tune in.

  4. #94
    Sporadic insanity normal.


    The Mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 11:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,736

    Re: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Exactly. That's all I was trying to say. I know a few teachers, and most of them have no problem at all handling unruly students. It's part of the job. Ask the teacher which she'd rather have - a bad kid with a normal haircut, or a good kid with DayGlo orange hair, and I'd bet you a nickel, the teacher will pick the student with the weird hair, every day and twice on Sunday. And again - if a teacher can't handle her students, she needs to get another job. Not trying to slam teachers at all. But teaching ain't for sissies.
    There's that quote I recall...I looked it up: Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach, teach gym.”

    ― Woody Allen

    See, that's the BS part - we actually think this in some cases.

    What it should be is, "those who can't teach, do.

    Because frankly, teaching is harder than doing, or at the least has a separate yet related skill requirement, and until we acknowledge that and pay/require results accordingly, we will continue to have too many mediocre/bad teachers in the system.

    Too many IMO = any.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

  5. #95
    Sage
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:08 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,890

    Re: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Exactly. That's all I was trying to say. I know a few teachers, and most of them have no problem at all handling unruly students. It's part of the job. Ask the teacher which she'd rather have - a bad kid with a normal haircut, or a good kid with DayGlo orange hair, and I'd bet you a nickel, the teacher will pick the student with the weird hair, every day and twice on Sunday. And again - if a teacher can't handle her students, she needs to get another job. Not trying to slam teachers at all. But teaching ain't for sissies.
    When it comes to alot of classroom behavior issues, and kids are difficult to control, I think it goes back to parents. Not that the teachers shouldnt be responsible for classroom behavior but a teacher is there to teach. Of course basic discipline is important but even that comes back to parents...when teachers do try to discipline them....parents often complain.

    My comment was more along the lines that while yes, teachers are responsible for maintaining a decent teaching environment in the classroom, if there are real disruptions...which I question whether or not hair would ever be one...those things affect kids' ability to learn. Not all kids even act out when they are teased or abused or are bullies...but that disruption still occurs on school grounds and affects their ability to learn 'in the classroom.'

    So I didnt feel it was fair to place the burden of the effects on disruptions solely on teachers...since they dont control what happens outside the classroom.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

  6. #96
    Pragmatist
    SouthernDemocrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    KC
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:59 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,410

    Re: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

    I think they should be able to, but only if the student is involved in sports or activities that for performance or safety reasons certain hairstyles are a problem. For example, if a boy was on the swim team you probably would not want him having really long hair.
    "You're the only person that decides how far you'll go and what you're capable of." - Ben Saunders (Explorer and Endurance Athlete)

  7. #97
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:55 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,343

    Re: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Natural hair color should be required for school.
    Why?

    All kids rebel to a certain extent, and hair styles are not permanent. Beats the crap out of tattoos.

  8. #98
    Baby Eating Monster
    Korimyr the Rat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Laramie, WY
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 02:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    18,709
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    I think the Military is still voluntary service. Childhood education is not an option.
    Welfare schools are still optional in most of the country. The difference here isn't that school is mandatory, but that the military isn't required to accept any and all applicants.

    Kid's a US citizen, he has the right to attend public school unless and until he presents a danger to the other students' safety or their own right to an education.

    The school officials here overstepped, and they ought to get a taste of the lash until they remember what their ****ing job is.

    edit: That said, if the school says your hair has to be clean, has to be tied back, can't be all gummed up with product-- anything the kid can go right ahead and fix when the bell rings-- that's fine. That's no different than a dress code or a uniform. But the way the hair's cut or colored? That's trying to exert authority over how they look and act when they're not in school, and for that... refer to my previous comment about the lash.
    Last edited by Korimyr the Rat; 08-30-14 at 07:13 AM.

  9. #99
    Guru

    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Last Seen
    12-12-17 @ 11:27 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    3,899

    Re: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Kid's a US citizen, he has the right to attend public school unless and until he presents a danger to the other students' safety or their own right to an education.
    Hair styles are a form or self expression. The courts have ruled time and time again that public schools are not necessarily free speech zones and that students do not have unlimited freedom of self expression.

    In short, if the self expression is disruptive, it can and should be regulated. It does not matter if it is hair styles, speech, T-shirts, distributing leaflets etc.
    Last edited by Cryptic; 08-30-14 at 10:17 AM.

  10. #100
    Phonetic Mnemonic
    radcen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Look to your right... I'm that guy.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:11 AM
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    33,413

    Re: Should schools have the authority to dictate student's hair styles?

    I keep seeing people say it's ok to disallow "disruptive" hair styles, but no one seems to be able to give an example of what "disruptive" is.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

Page 10 of 16 FirstFirst ... 89101112 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •