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    Re: If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Those moderates have become bit of a nobody now in Syria havent they?
    They have sought the shelter of terrorist groups to save themselves from a mass-murdering dictator. This does not mean they have, in any real way, joined the terrorists. They still exist, and they're still waiting for justice and a chance at developing a decent country.

    Do you believe all Syrians support terrorists or murderous dictatorship? I believe many, probably most, Syrians want human rights and representation.

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    Re: If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Like all of us know the options are on the table for the USA to bomb ISIS in Syria. With that in mind if If the we are going to bomb ISIS in Syria should the we work With Syrian State?

    **When I say "We" I mean the US gov**
    I wouldn't support that, and I doubt it'd happen because of comments made by Assad.

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    Re: If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Like all of us know the options are on the table for the USA to bomb ISIS in Syria. With that in mind if If the we are going to bomb ISIS in Syria should the we work With Syrian State?

    **When I say "We" I mean the US gov**
    I think we should stay out of the middle east.

    If I was Assad I would not want the US anywhere near my country considering the fact they were wanting to arm the "rebels" i.e. ISIS(some could argue that the US did arm them).
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    Re: If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post

    Do you believe all Syrians support terrorists or murderous dictatorship? I believe many, probably most, Syrians want human rights and representation.
    No I do not. But one must look at the realistic situation of what is happening in the country.


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    Re: If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No I do not. But one must look at the realistic situation of what is happening in the country.
    A mass-murdering dictator slaughtered 100k civilians to prevent a democratic revolution. This resulted in the moderates needing to run for cover among terrorists (because the West did not support them) and now Assad has created a monster.

    Clearly, both ISIS and Assad must go to create space for democratic reform and human rights.

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    Re: If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    A mass-murdering dictator slaughtered 100k civilians to prevent a democratic revolution. This resulted in the moderates needing to run for cover among terrorists (because the West did not support them) and now Assad has created a monster.

    Clearly, both ISIS and Assad must go to create space for democratic reform and human rights.
    Sorry. But that last option is clearly unrealistic. The moderates have almost completely lost. Now its Islamists, or more extreme Islamists.


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    Re: If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Sorry. But that last option is clearly unrealistic. The moderates have almost completely lost. Now its Islamists, or more extreme Islamists.
    You never supported help to the moderates. You always blamed the US for Syrian terrorists. You always claim Assad is the good guy and he didn't use chems against the capital. One cannot expect you to believe in supporting moderates at the 11th hour. You've always supported Assad and blamed the US, and I've no expectation of you changing.

    I think we'll agree to disagree on what is realistic. You keep your short-term goal of keeping Assad in power, I'll keep my long term goal of human rights and representation for Syrians.

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    Re: If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You never supported help to the moderates. You always blamed the US for Syrian terrorists. You always claim Assad is the good guy and he didn't use chems against the capital. One cannot expect you to believe in supporting moderates at the 11th hour. You've always supported Assad and blamed the US, and I've no expectation of you changing.

    I think we'll agree to disagree on what is realistic. You keep your short-term goal of keeping Assad in power, I'll keep my long term goal of human rights and representation for Syrians.
    i don't think we should assist assad becuase he is demanding that any bombings or airstrikes that the united states would conduct in syria need to be approved by his regime. how can we be certain he is targeting his political enemys and using the united states airforce as his unwilling hitmen?
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    Re: If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Assad is guilty of horrible war crimes, including gassing the capital, and needs to go.
    This really just illustrates why we stay out for now. Let ISIS get rid of Assad or vice versa, and then we can worry about the winner without creating a power vacuum.


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    Re: If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    This really just illustrates why we stay out for now. Let ISIS get rid of Assad or vice versa, and then we can worry about the winner without creating a power vacuum.
    You speak as if innocents are not being slaughtered.

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