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    Re: Should We Privatize National Parks?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Most of our large National Parks are located in rural states with a low tax base. The single largest expenditure for those rural states is education. After that its programs like SCHIP, and various safety-net type programs, then infrastructure, after that its policing and emergency services. Parks, DNR, state forests and so on are way down the list and are the first to be cut when the state gets into budget trouble. For example, Wyoming simply does not have the tax base to manage the National Parks and Forests located within that state without selling much of those parks and forests off to developers. So unless you want Yellowstone to become another Vail, leave it in the National Park System.

    National Parks are a tiny fraction of our federal budget outlays, if they have issues, then fund them a little better. Why mess with this nation's single greatest idea? Our National Parks, Forests, and Federal Wilderness Areas are literally what makes this nation unique. You can strap a pack on and completely leave civilization here and experience true freedom as long as you are out there, there are few other places on earth that you can do that in.
    Let's leave it up to the states to decide whether they want to take over the parks in their state. Standard of maintenance and use can still be established at the Federal level. If a state cannot handle it like some of your examples, then I can understand Federal involvement.

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    Re: Should We Privatize National Parks?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Let's leave it up to the states to decide whether they want to take over the parks in their state. Standard of maintenance and use can still be established at the Federal level. If a state cannot handle it like some of your examples, then I can understand Federal involvement.
    If there are resources there to exploit, then of course the states will want them. What you would have in such a scenario is the states taking over federal lands with good timber, mining, and oil resources, while they left the federal government with what they considered worthless lands. What is wrong with the current system of National Parks? We all own and pay for places like Glacier National Park, Grand Canyon National Park, Smokey Mountain National Park, and Yellowstone, not just the residents of those states. In fact, when you get down to it, the residents of states like New York, New Jersey, and California have paid a lot more for the management and upkeep of parks like Glacier and Yellowstone than the residents of Montana and Wyoming.
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    Re: Should We Privatize National Parks?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If there are resources there to exploit, then of course the states will want them. What you would have in such a scenario is the states taking over federal lands with good timber, mining, and oil resources, while they left the federal government with what they considered worthless lands. What is wrong with the current system of National Parks? We all own and pay for places like Glacier National Park, Grand Canyon National Park, Smokey Mountain National Park, and Yellowstone, not just the residents of those states. In fact, when you get down to it, the residents of states like New York, New Jersey, and California have paid a lot more for the management and upkeep of parks like Glacier and Yellowstone than the residents of Montana and Wyoming.
    If the only government you trust is the Federal government, then how open are you really to having a discussion? States also have to deal with the infrastructure around National Parks, they also have new national parks being created without their consent. I'm not comfortable with the absolute that all politics is local, except national parks. Everything you attribute as a fear of the converting some national parks to state parks has happened to some degree in national parks.

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    Re: Should We Privatize National Parks?

    There's absolutely no reason for us to have "national" parks.

    We should sell it off to a the highest bidder and let them do whatever they want with it. If a bunch of silly liberals want to pool their money together to protect lands they'll almost certainly never visit then I say more power to them. There's just no sense in it being a government operation.

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    Re: Should We Privatize National Parks?

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    There's absolutely no reason for us to have "national" parks.

    We should sell it off to a the highest bidder and let them do whatever they want with it. If a bunch of silly liberals want to pool their money together to protect lands they'll almost certainly never visit then I say more power to them. There's just no sense in it being a government operation.
    Tell that to your kids when the boundary waters have been stripped bare and turned into more condos.
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    Re: Should We Privatize National Parks?

    Quote Originally Posted by deuce View Post
    tell that to your kids when the boundary waters have been stripped bare and turned into more condos.

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    Re: Should We Privatize National Parks?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    If the only government you trust is the Federal government, then how open are you really to having a discussion? States also have to deal with the infrastructure around National Parks, they also have new national parks being created without their consent. I'm not comfortable with the absolute that all politics is local, except national parks. Everything you attribute as a fear of the converting some national parks to state parks has happened to some degree in national parks.
    I don't know of any National Parks that were created without local support. In fact, as National Parks are established by congress, its a given that the local congressman is usually the bills sponsor. Its usually local movements that are the initial catalyst for the creation of a National Park.
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    Re: Should We Privatize National Parks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Tell that to your kids when the boundary waters have been stripped bare and turned into more condos.
    Technically the Boundary Waters are a Federal Wilderness Area on National Forest land, not a National Park.
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    Re: Should We Privatize National Parks?

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    There's absolutely no reason for us to have "national" parks.

    We should sell it off to a the highest bidder and let them do whatever they want with it. If a bunch of silly liberals want to pool their money together to protect lands they'll almost certainly never visit then I say more power to them. There's just no sense in it being a government operation.
    Well all I can say is thank God your view expressed above is one that hardly anyone holds.
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    Re: Should We Privatize National Parks?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I don't know of any National Parks that were created without local support. In fact, as National Parks are established by congress, its a given that the local congressman is usually the bills sponsor. Its usually local movements that are the initial catalyst for the creation of a National Park.
    I was a bit broad in my definition. I was including National Monuments in with National Parks.

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