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    Re: Should Companies That Avoid Taxes in USA Be Allowed to do Business in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Because the left thinks it should be able to steal as much as possible to give to their voting demographics in the form of "entitlements".
    I guess that I was writing the same thing that you had posted 2 minutes earlier which I did not see. But I guess it doesn't hurt to repeat a truth.

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    Re: Should Companies That Avoid Taxes in USA Be Allowed to do Business in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Kudos to them for avoiding the silly and destructive corporate taxation.
    Clearly they've invested in wise and legitimate tax consulting, and compliant with the letter of the law, to arrive at this final result.

    What's your beef? If you really feel it necessary to double or even triple tax multinational corporations just because the behemoth government needs to be fed, you are welcome to lobby and change the tax code to do so. Good luck with that.

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    Re: Should Companies That Avoid Taxes in USA Be Allowed to do Business in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Clearly they've invested in wise and legitimate tax consulting, and compliant with the letter of the law, to arrive at this final result.

    What's your beef? If you really feel it necessary to double or even triple tax multinational corporations just because the behemoth government needs to be fed, you are welcome to lobby and change the tax code to do so. Good luck with that.

    I assume you are talking about TheDemSocialist because I am against corporate/business taxation altogether as I think it does little but hurt the economy.

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    Re: Should Companies That Avoid Taxes in USA Be Allowed to do Business in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I assume you are talking about TheDemSocialist because I am against corporate/business taxation altogether as I think it does little but hurt the economy.
    Yup. That'd be the case. Please see my post as in support of your position.
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    Re: Should Companies That Avoid Taxes in USA Be Allowed to do Business in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgangirl View Post
    What's your opinion on social responsibility? If a company is making you money, but say, doing it off forced child labor for example... Would you move your investment? Or would you not factor that into the equation? I'm sincerely curious.
    I think that we muddy the waters when we try to combine too many competing objectives. My wife and I have never purchased a decent car when we tried to combine what I wanted with what she wanted-we ended up with a car neither liked.

    A proper role of government is to ensure that a company follows some social responsibility and not all investors are simply interested in maximizing profit. Child labor is illegal. Some pollution and environmental degradation is illegal. A company that follows illegal procedures will (OK, hopefully) be punished and the return on investment will be hurt.

    And there are investors who understand that they may get a reduced rate of return and a company may have a harder time generating investors but they still pride themselves on social responsibility and put their money where their mouth is. At least I have always done so and assume that many do as well. I will not invest in a company that I don't respect.

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    Re: Should Companies That Avoid Taxes in USA Be Allowed to do Business in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    What's sad is there seems to be those of a certain *cough*Tea-Party*cough* mindset that seem to think that it's patriotic to avoid paying taxes.

    If you don't do everything in your power to legally reduce your tax exposure, you are an idiot

    Plain and simple

    Companies do it

    People do it

    We have an entire industry built upon that premise

    Would I change the tax codes, and make everything simpler if I had the power....sure

    But as long as congress follows the tax lobby, and the irs is as ****ed up as it is, then it is my right and yours to pay as little as possible legally of course
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    Re: Should Companies That Avoid Taxes in USA Be Allowed to do Business in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric7216 View Post
    I think that we muddy the waters when we try to combine too many competing objectives. My wife and I have never purchased a decent car when we tried to combine what I wanted with what she wanted-we ended up with a car neither liked.
    *Sigh*... the many joys of marriage. I learned after a few years that often "compromise" (aren't we BOTH supposed to get a little each?) usually works out - in real life - to NEITHER getting squat, except a solution we wouldn't strangle each other over... Or bring up 3 Thanksgivings later...

    A proper role of government is to ensure that a company follows some social responsibility and not all investors are simply interested in maximizing profit. Child labor is illegal. Some pollution and environmental degradation is illegal. A company that follows illegal procedures will (OK, hopefully) be punished and the return on investment will be hurt.
    Unfortunately, what would be "illegal" in the US is often overlooked or worse -- legal-- in many of the countries these corporations move to. If the minimum wage in China is the equivalent of $3 US, that company is saving $5-$6 US per employee, per hour. Never mind the living conditions some are subjected to. I saw a documentary awhile back where these apartment complexes workers lived in installed nets in the courtyard. It was needed to prevent more suicide attempts by the workers. Often, these people take the work, no matter how crappy, because it's better than the alternative. We have the same situation in the US, IMHO. But the poverty those people experience is a world apart.


    And there are investors who understand that they may get a reduced rate of return and a company may have a harder time generating investors but they still pride themselves on social responsibility and put their money where their mouth is. At least I have always done so and assume that many do as well. I will not invest in a company that I don't respect.
    I agree. I have an enormous amount of respect for those people/companies.

    I have no respect for the ones that will go to any length to save a buck, consequences be damned. In fact, I hope there is a special place in hell carved out for those jerks.

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    Re: Should Companies That Avoid Taxes in USA Be Allowed to do Business in the USA?

    I can't bring myself to care about people doing whatever they can to avoid paying taxes. It is in your best interest to avoid paying your taxes, so I'm not going to support punishing people for doing it. It's also just stupid to say "you can't do business here" to someone that avoided their taxes. All you end up doing is punishing consumers for a law that amounts to theft. It's really stupid, imho.

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    Re: Should Companies That Avoid Taxes in USA Be Allowed to do Business in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogtowner View Post
    Should congress realize that predatory taxation is an excellent way to watch the private capital of the country go elsewhere ?
    What happens is the US works with other countries to create a situation where private capital is trapped where they want it. The US has figured that out long ago.

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    Re: Should Companies That Avoid Taxes in USA Be Allowed to do Business in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    I invest my money with a company .... that company has a responsibility to MAXIMIZE my investment.

    Any other questions?
    ....yeah, what does that have to do with the fundamental question of this thread?
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