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    Re: Traditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And? What's the problem? I see no preaching of hatred here.

    He, quite frankly, makes a fair point.



    The speech really isn't any different than what you might see a modern politician making to sell a war.
    You missed this:

    This I grant them through the power of God with which I am invested. O what a disgrace if such a despised and base race, which worships demons, should conquer a people which has the faith of omnipotent God and is made glorious with the name of Christ!
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    Re: Traditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    It's true.

    That's not hatred.
    So if I called a group "a despised and base race, which worships demons" that's not hateful at all?
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    Re: Traditions

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You missed this:
    And how is that any different than referring to someone as being a "monster," "hun," or as being a member of an "axis of evil?"

    The basic gist of the thing is that Christians are suffering at the hands of non-Christian invaders, and it is the duty of Christian peoples to come to their aid, rather than fighting one another. As noted earlier, in that vein, he actually makes a fair point.

    It's hardly a genocidal call to "kill 'em all" just for being different.

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    Re: Traditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And how is that any different than referring to someone as being a "monster," "hun," or as being a member of an "axis of evil?"
    All of which were used to incite hatred in the past. Not sure how you plan on defending your argument by using terms that were used in the past to incite hate as proof of not hate.

    The basic gist of the thing is that Christians are suffering at the hands of non-Christian invaders, and it is the duty of Christian peoples to come to their aid, rather than fighting one another. As noted earlier, in that vein, he actually makes a fair point.
    Why would he call them debased and demon worshipers if he wasn't trying to incite hate towards them?

    It's hardly a genocidal call to "kill 'em all" just for being different.
    I never said he was genocidal. I said he was hateful towards them.
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    Re: Traditions

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    All of which were used to incite hatred in the past. Not sure how you plan on defending your argument by using terms that were used in the past to incite hate as proof of not hate.
    It's a call to war, dude. What in the Hell do you expect? High praise and kind words?

    The fact of the matter is that he's not advocating genocide, war crimes, cruelty, or general hatred. He calling for a limited counter-attack to certain grievances already directed against the Christian world.

    Frankly, it's really not above or beyond any other call to war I've seen in that regard.

    It's roughly on par with Reagan's "evil empire" speech, IMO.

    Why would he call them debased and demon worshipers if he wasn't trying to incite hate towards them?
    False religions are generally held to be of the devil's making. That is basically a given in both Christian and Islamic ideology.

    It's hardly like the Pope is inventing some new concept here.

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    Re: Traditions

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Of course it's a dodge. Paleo doesn't want to admit he's using double standards!
    Anything to evade the truth.
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    Re: Traditions

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So if I called a group "a despised and base race, which worships demons" that's not hateful at all?
    Not necessarily.

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