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Thread: Question about obama, the general and the thug

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    Re: Question about obama, the general and the thug

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    That would be a judgement call, don't you think?
    Not from your post.

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    Re: Question about obama, the general and the thug

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Hey Kreton.

    Yesterday I actually e-mailed Snopes telling them they got it wrong. They actually contacted me in less than an hour standing by their claim that Chuck Hagel is part of the Obama White House staff.

    Neither of the Mikkelsons have any knowledge how the military change of command works and who are staff and who are not. All of their research is done on the internet, usaully by googling. Basically they have no knowledge how to research.

    For example you have an Army infantry division commanded by a Maj. General who has a staff. An Executive Officer, and Adjutant and a administrative officer S-1 , intelligence officer S-2, operation officer S-3, supply officer S-4, training officer and a communication officer. That's the Generals staff. Lets call the Maj. General Maj. Gen. Obama.

    Next down the chain of command is the Regimental commander of a regiment who's commanded by a Colonel who happens to have his own staff comparable to the division commanders staff. That regimental commander is not a member of the Maj. Generals staff. Lets call the regimental commander Col. Chuck Hagel.

    Snopes got snoped. They got it wrong, there were no members of the Obama White House staff present at General Green's funeral but there were three members of the Obama White House staff present at Brown's funeral.

    Valleri Jarrett and Susan Rice are members of the White House staff, not Chuck Hagel.
    I think we should use the definition of White House Staff as somebody who works with Obama at the White House.

    Does Hagel fit that description? I don't think so.

    Did the three people sent to the Brown funeral fit that description?

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    Re: Question about obama, the general and the thug

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I think we should use the definition of White House Staff as somebody who works with Obama at the White House.

    Does Hagel fit that description? I don't think so.

    Did the three people sent to the Brown funeral fit that description?
    Yes. I, for one, am outraged that Obama didnt send a few low level White House functionaries to the funeral (of course, they may have been there - it probably wasnt reported though), and instead sent a lowly Cabinet member.
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    Re: Question about obama, the general and the thug

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I think we should use the definition of White House Staff as somebody who works with Obama at the White House.

    Does Hagel fit that description? I don't think so.

    Did the three people sent to the Brown funeral fit that description?
    Snopes believes that the Secretary of Defense must have an office in the White House.


    But I digress, back to Browns funeral and who did Obama send to represent him.

    Excerpts:

    >" EDGARTOWN, Mass. • President Barack Obama is sending three White House aides to the funeral of Michael Brown,...">

    >" Leading the White House group for Monday's service will be the chairman of the My Brother's Keeper Task Force, Broderick Johnson. My Brother's Keeper is an Obama initiative that aims to empower young minorities.

    Also attending will be the deputy director of the White House Office of Public Engagement, Marlon Marshall, and an adviser for the office, Heather Foster..."<

    White House aides to attend Michael Brown funeral : News

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    Re: Question about obama, the general and the thug

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Someone needs to brush up on the military chain of command and what the responsibilities are of each person who's in that chain of command.

    Are you aware that the Joint Chiefs of Staff are no longer part of the U.S. military chain of command ? They haven't been since the passage of the Goldwater-Nichols Act in 1986.

    There were only three individuals with in the chain of command before you got to Gen. Harold Green. The CnC Obama, Chuck Hagel and then Gen Mattis. Oh wait a second, that's right, Obama fired/purged Gen. Mattis and replaced him with Gen. Austin I believe, a damn good yes man.

    So exactly where was Obama when Gen. Green was buried ? Playing golf ?
    Right! And since the person who died was a high-ranking member of our Armed Services AND the Secretary of Defense IS a White House official, i.e., a member of the President's Cabinet, it makes perfect sense to have the Secretary of Defense attend the funeral.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Snopes believes that the Secretary of Defense must have an office in the White House.


    But I digress, back to Browns funeral and who did Obama send to represent him.

    Excerpts:

    >" EDGARTOWN, Mass. • President Barack Obama is sending three White House aides to the funeral of Michael Brown,...">

    >" Leading the White House group for Monday's service will be the chairman of the My Brother's Keeper Task Force, Broderick Johnson. My Brother's Keeper is an Obama initiative that aims to empower young minorities.

    Also attending will be the deputy director of the White House Office of Public Engagement, Marlon Marshall, and an adviser for the office, Heather Foster..."<

    White House aides to attend Michael Brown funeral : News
    And it was very fitting for each of those individuals to attend Michael Brown's funeral or did you miss the parts about "civil unrest, cultural diversity and community development" all being a part of the problem as to why the city of Ferguson, MO fell into social disorder?
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