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Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threat?

Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threat?

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Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

shrubnose said:
The USA can survive without it.
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I'll admit walking and bicycling is a healthy alternative, but you know without oil, our economy would suffer greatly.

The United States relied on net imports (imports minus exports) for about 40% of the petroleum (crude oil and petroleum products) that we consumed in 2012. Just over half of these imports came from the Western Hemisphere. Our dependence on foreign petroleum has declined since peaking in 2005.
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EIA's Energy in Brief: How dependent are we on foreign oil?

Even if we are lowering our dependence on foreign oil imports, where would we acquire the difference or deficit needed to keep our economy running smoothly?

Normalize relations with Venezuela?
 
Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

We tried bombing them to oblivion in Viet Nam........Did not work......Won't work now either.
 
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Navy Pride said:
So youi would rather fight them here.
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Do they have a navy? I missed that.
 
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Navy Pride said:
We tried bombing them to oblivion in Viet Nam........Did not work......
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Neither did a half a million troops and 9 years of effort.
 
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Wiggen said:
Do they have a navy? I missed that.
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You also missed the fact that a lot of their fighters have U.S. passports and could very easily get in this country and raise havoc.........I hope the city where you live is not hit..........You might change your mind..
 
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Wiggen said:
Neither did a half a million troops and 9 years of effort.
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No argument here.
 
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Navy Pride said:
What say you?
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Yes...but only if necessary. I think we can get the job done with a contingent of US special forces painting targets for air strikes in support of the Kurds and whatever is left of the Iraqi military doing the close combat fighting.
 
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Navy Pride said:
So youi would rather fight them here.
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What indication, hint or even mutated White House myth have you that ISIS can or intends to invade the US?

Are you so weak that your own military build up, the tanks APC's, snipers and RPG's in your city streets are not enough to scare them into not trying? How about a wall?

And what makes anyone think that fighting them where they stand will work? You've been slaughtering terrorist enemies for 13 years, only just left Iraq and now have to go back. What evidence is there that "fueling up drones" is going to stop the ubiquitous growth of America's enemies? How many dead now in Afghanistan? A million in all I heard [I will stand to be corrected] and no end in sight. And you think you can throw some bombs around, re-invade Iraq and be home for Thanksgiving?

Like Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Afghanistan and now Iraq again. Albert Einstein once said a form of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, i.e. American foreign policy.
 
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PoS said:
Im afraid youve got it all backwards, my views are based on realism, the optimists are the ones who think we can win the war on terror.
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We can win the war on terror.
 
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Navy Pride said:
You also missed the fact that a lot of their fighters have U.S. passports and could very easily get in this country and raise havoc.........I hope the city where you live is not hit..........You might change your mind..
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So do ya think that these guys who hold US passports will not bother to come to the US to 'raise havoc' after we attack them in their country?

Do you really think the people in ISIS just cant spare a couple dozen guys because they'll be so busy fighting us in Iraq that they cant get some guys on a plane for a few days?

Do you think they might be able to get those guys a little more motivated to do this once the US drops a couple bombs on their family home?
 
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PoS said:
I do indeed. Terrorists are gaining strength because of our interventions. Its giving them an opportunity to recruit more for their ranks because the more we push the more hated we get. We are not getting anything out of it anyway other than fresh hatred against us. If we pull back and stop supporting the other side there is no reason for them to attack us. Foley was killed because we intervened.
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Your problem is that you are giving too much recognition and to bloody murderous terrorists who do not represent anything but a harsh extreme version of islam. There is nothing the US has done that justifies what any terrorist is doing.
 
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Yes, I favor putting boots on the ground. ISIS makes threats against America and they have killed American citizens. They are clearly a threat to our international interests and they should be destroyed with a military campaign.
 
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digsbe said:
Yes, I favor putting boots on the ground. ISIS makes threats against America and they have killed American citizens. They are clearly a threat to our international interests and they should be destroyed with a military campaign.
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Hmmm.

That just made me think.

What would Jesus do?
 
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Threegoofs said:
Hmmm.

That just made me think.

What would Jesus do?
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Probably judge them once they die and send them to hell.
 
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digsbe said:
Yes, I favor putting boots on the ground. ISIS makes threats against America and they have killed American citizens. They are clearly a threat to our international interests and they should be destroyed with a military campaign.
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I agree with this for one reason that every time we use overwhelming force, the fight is over with quickly, decisively and costing us much less in the long run than these contracted campaigns of tit for tat.
 
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digsbe said:
Probably judge them once they die and send them to hell.
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You're probably right. No doubt he'd do the same with those throwing their support in for war... on either side.
 
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digsbe said:
Probably judge them once they die and send them to hell.
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Haha. I like Fire and Brimstone Digsbe.

What's the new avatar?
 
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Threegoofs said:
You're probably right. No doubt he'd do the same with those throwing their support in for war... on either side.
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First, Christians are not judged by God based on their actions or faith, they are judged by Christ's faith having accepted Him as their savior.

Second, if God did judge someone based on their actions, I doubt he'd condemn opposing genocide.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Favor it?

Of course I don't FAVOR it - but if that's what it takes then so be it. Nevermind the painful irony that our initial involvement furthered this present situation.

But please - not while Obama's the one calling the shots. :roll: He's an idiot of epic proportions and would much sooner have our armed forced sucks his **** and dribble his basketballs than work up an organized plan without telling the world about it. After 6 years you'd think he would have figured out how presidency works but he's still on day 1.
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Sweet!
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Favor it?

Of course I don't FAVOR it - but if that's what it takes then so be it. Nevermind the painful irony that our initial involvement furthered this present situation.

But please - not while Obama's the one calling the shots.
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That's refreshingly honest, the subsequent rhetoric aside. I'd ask what 'dribbling basketballs' means, but I'm rather sure I don't want to know.
 
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Fearandloathing said:
What indication, hint or even mutated White House myth have you that ISIS can or intends to invade the US?

Are you so weak that your own military build up, the tanks APC's, snipers and RPG's in your city streets are not enough to scare them into not trying? How about a wall?

And what makes anyone think that fighting them where they stand will work? You've been slaughtering terrorist enemies for 13 years, only just left Iraq and now have to go back. What evidence is there that "fueling up drones" is going to stop the ubiquitous growth of America's enemies? How many dead now in Afghanistan? A million in all I heard [I will stand to be corrected] and no end in sight. And you think you can throw some bombs around, re-invade Iraq and be home for Thanksgiving?

Like Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Afghanistan and now Iraq again. Albert Einstein once said a form of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, i.e. American foreign policy.
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My good man. You miss the whole picture. The "Big Picture" as is so often used as an excuse/reason/obfuscation. The taxpayers lost their asses on the 13 years of insanity, but we are about Capitalism/Corporatism in this Nation and those same Capitalists/Corporatists profitted handsomely during the same 13 years. Now, only a dummy thinks that the lowly, flat wallet taxpaying citizen has any influence on gov't and besides, he just pays the bills. Capitalism/Corporatism is the lifeblood of the Nation and even if they don't pay too many taxes, the Supreme Court says they are citizens, and those same 13 years of terror, chaos, mayhem, bombs, missiles, guns, and death by engineered imagination is an Industry and a very successful Industry that owns Supreme Court judges, politicians and K Street. Raytheion, GE, Grumman, Boeing, Z, Wackenhut, ad infinitum must constantly endeavor (promote/market) to create new profit opportunities and the MidEast smells like money to me. Take a look at that "Big Picture" and don't say we are selling and promoting war but that we are creating employment and really big bonuses if you are in the Corporate loop. Not successful! hogwash! One of the greatest cash cows ever invented and only the Republicans want to accept the bragging rights to "strong on defense" OFFENSE is the correct word. You don't call it War For Profit, just War, like Terror war and that's pretty general, you just have to get people to believe you and that's where that marketing and promotion kicks in. Buy some Media, don't ya' know?
 
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DaveFagan said:
My good man. You miss the whole picture. The "Big Picture" as is so often used as an excuse/reason/obfuscation. The taxpayers lost their asses on the 13 years of insanity, but we are about Capitalism/Corporatism in this Nation and those same Capitalists/Corporatists profitted handsomely during the same 13 years. Now, only a dummy thinks that the lowly, flat wallet taxpaying citizen has any influence on gov't and besides, he just pays the bills. Capitalism/Corporatism is the lifeblood of the Nation and even if they don't pay too many taxes, the Supreme Court says they are citizens, and those same 13 years of terror, chaos, mayhem, bombs, missiles, guns, and death by engineered imagination is an Industry and a very successful Industry that owns Supreme Court judges, politicians and K Street. Raytheion, GE, Grumman, Boeing, Z, Wackenhut, ad infinitum must constantly endeavor (promote/market) to create new profit opportunities and the MidEast smells like money to me. Take a look at that "Big Picture" and don't say we are selling and promoting war but that we are creating employment and really big bonuses if you are in the Corporate loop. Not successful! hogwash! One of the greatest cash cows ever invented and only the Republicans want to accept the bragging rights to "strong on defense" OFFENSE is the correct word. You don't call it War For Profit, just War, like Terror war and that's pretty general, you just have to get people to believe you and that's where that marketing and promotion kicks in. Buy some Media, don't ya' know?
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Oh yeah, how silly of me. Must have been an acid flash or some ****. I forgot there for a moment that the United States is not a nation but a business.

Agree with all of that except laying it at the feet of Republicans. Since 1938 Democrats have ruled over almost twice as much warfare as Republicans and spent just as much. Of Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Bush and Bush 2, only the Bushes started a war. Eisenhower and Nixon ended one and Reagan fought some battles, but it can be said also ended the cold war, putting on ice more nukes than all the others combined.

War is business and as you have so aptly pointed out, America is business.
 
Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

No. I say we respectfully do what the region wants and stop trying to control it so terrorist groups stop forming in the first place.
 
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Navy Pride said:
You also missed the fact that a lot of their fighters have U.S. passports and could very easily get in this country and raise havoc.........I hope the city where you live is not hit..........You might change your mind..
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Define 'a lot'.
 
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