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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Favor it?

    Of course I don't FAVOR it - but if that's what it takes then so be it. Nevermind the painful irony that our initial involvement furthered this present situation.

    But please - not while Obama's the one calling the shots.
    That's refreshingly honest, the subsequent rhetoric aside. I'd ask what 'dribbling basketballs' means, but I'm rather sure I don't want to know.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    What indication, hint or even mutated White House myth have you that ISIS can or intends to invade the US?

    Are you so weak that your own military build up, the tanks APC's, snipers and RPG's in your city streets are not enough to scare them into not trying? How about a wall?

    And what makes anyone think that fighting them where they stand will work? You've been slaughtering terrorist enemies for 13 years, only just left Iraq and now have to go back. What evidence is there that "fueling up drones" is going to stop the ubiquitous growth of America's enemies? How many dead now in Afghanistan? A million in all I heard [I will stand to be corrected] and no end in sight. And you think you can throw some bombs around, re-invade Iraq and be home for Thanksgiving?

    Like Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Afghanistan and now Iraq again. Albert Einstein once said a form of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, i.e. American foreign policy.
    My good man. You miss the whole picture. The "Big Picture" as is so often used as an excuse/reason/obfuscation. The taxpayers lost their asses on the 13 years of insanity, but we are about Capitalism/Corporatism in this Nation and those same Capitalists/Corporatists profitted handsomely during the same 13 years. Now, only a dummy thinks that the lowly, flat wallet taxpaying citizen has any influence on gov't and besides, he just pays the bills. Capitalism/Corporatism is the lifeblood of the Nation and even if they don't pay too many taxes, the Supreme Court says they are citizens, and those same 13 years of terror, chaos, mayhem, bombs, missiles, guns, and death by engineered imagination is an Industry and a very successful Industry that owns Supreme Court judges, politicians and K Street. Raytheion, GE, Grumman, Boeing, Z, Wackenhut, ad infinitum must constantly endeavor (promote/market) to create new profit opportunities and the MidEast smells like money to me. Take a look at that "Big Picture" and don't say we are selling and promoting war but that we are creating employment and really big bonuses if you are in the Corporate loop. Not successful! hogwash! One of the greatest cash cows ever invented and only the Republicans want to accept the bragging rights to "strong on defense" OFFENSE is the correct word. You don't call it War For Profit, just War, like Terror war and that's pretty general, you just have to get people to believe you and that's where that marketing and promotion kicks in. Buy some Media, don't ya' know?

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    My good man. You miss the whole picture. The "Big Picture" as is so often used as an excuse/reason/obfuscation. The taxpayers lost their asses on the 13 years of insanity, but we are about Capitalism/Corporatism in this Nation and those same Capitalists/Corporatists profitted handsomely during the same 13 years. Now, only a dummy thinks that the lowly, flat wallet taxpaying citizen has any influence on gov't and besides, he just pays the bills. Capitalism/Corporatism is the lifeblood of the Nation and even if they don't pay too many taxes, the Supreme Court says they are citizens, and those same 13 years of terror, chaos, mayhem, bombs, missiles, guns, and death by engineered imagination is an Industry and a very successful Industry that owns Supreme Court judges, politicians and K Street. Raytheion, GE, Grumman, Boeing, Z, Wackenhut, ad infinitum must constantly endeavor (promote/market) to create new profit opportunities and the MidEast smells like money to me. Take a look at that "Big Picture" and don't say we are selling and promoting war but that we are creating employment and really big bonuses if you are in the Corporate loop. Not successful! hogwash! One of the greatest cash cows ever invented and only the Republicans want to accept the bragging rights to "strong on defense" OFFENSE is the correct word. You don't call it War For Profit, just War, like Terror war and that's pretty general, you just have to get people to believe you and that's where that marketing and promotion kicks in. Buy some Media, don't ya' know?
    Oh yeah, how silly of me. Must have been an acid flash or some ****. I forgot there for a moment that the United States is not a nation but a business.

    Agree with all of that except laying it at the feet of Republicans. Since 1938 Democrats have ruled over almost twice as much warfare as Republicans and spent just as much. Of Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Bush and Bush 2, only the Bushes started a war. Eisenhower and Nixon ended one and Reagan fought some battles, but it can be said also ended the cold war, putting on ice more nukes than all the others combined.

    War is business and as you have so aptly pointed out, America is business.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    No. I say we respectfully do what the region wants and stop trying to control it so terrorist groups stop forming in the first place.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You also missed the fact that a lot of their fighters have U.S. passports and could very easily get in this country and raise havoc.........I hope the city where you live is not hit..........You might change your mind..
    Define 'a lot'.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Which threat ?

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's refreshingly honest, the subsequent rhetoric aside. I'd ask what 'dribbling basketballs' means, but I'm rather sure I don't want to know.
    You know - 'calling the shots' - 'basketball' terminology . . . anyway. I should have made a snide comment on him playing golf, instead, since he seems to favor that more these days.

    Basically: he's an absentee president and he doesn't have the capacity to sort any of this out. He's just *whatever* tossing up executive orders like confetti. If the world wasn't falling apart - if we were amid some peaceful, passive era, he'd be great because he wouldn't have to do anything significant.

    He's a useful as a thumbtack in my shoe.

    Now - putting aside the bitterness. In truth: I think the stress of the office has actually rendered him incompetent. I think in the beginning he had the influence and foresight - but I don't think he's cut out for it. His priorities are all wrong. He was focused on healthcare and, when the world needed us the most, he adopted relatively laissez faire foreign policies - and when he did decide to act it was thoughtless, senseless, and an entire waste of effort and time.

    He's like a broken gyroscope or something. You can see it in his eyes - that energy he had is just gone.

    If he wasn't' the president I'd pity him for it.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    You're probably right. No doubt he'd do the same with those throwing their support in for war... on either side.
    Do you enjoy coming off that silly? To you, in war there are no good guys or bad guys.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    No. I say we respectfully do what the region wants and stop trying to control it so terrorist groups stop forming in the first place.
    ISIS, a totalitarian theocratic terrorist organization, does not represent the region and they want to commit genocide.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    No. I say we respectfully do what the region wants and stop trying to control it so terrorist groups stop forming in the first place.
    Rofl muslim terrorist jihad has been going on since the 8th century

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