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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    No.


    Waste of human resources.


    Simply bomb them and give high powered weapons to the Kurds for the next 20 or so years.


    That is the best option.
    But for the grace of God you could be one of those unfortunate people getting their heads chopped off. Think about it.
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    But for the grace of God you could be one of those unfortunate people getting their heads chopped off. Think about it.

    Which god are we talking about first off? There's so many I forget which one I need to pretend to care about with who sometimes for social mobility and income maximization.



    I have thought about it in your lens with the god aspect applied. My answer now becomes a resounding, even more emphatic no.



    The logic of "We should go kill a band of primordial barbarians following Peter Panist Esq ideology because they are wiping out other primordial barbarians that potentially share some strains of our own Peter Panist Esq ideology in a far flung barbarian land full of nothing but death and ruin for us." does not particularly appeal to me in the slightest.



    These Iraqi "Christians" are not your flavor of Christian. You have no connection to them. They don't believe what you believe. They aren't ethnically the same as you. They don't share your values.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm laughing at the laughably rediculus suggestion that The Munich Agreement was part of some master plan to stall Germany and buy time to build up the British Army.
    Why can't you answer the question?

    Are you actually disagreeing that Chamberlain ordered a huge military build up after meeting with Hitler?

    There's something about extreme partisan hacks that makes them unable to answer really basic questions.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Chamberlain like Obama does Islam appeased Hitler.
    Since when is Islam a monolithic entity? Indonesia is a big ally of the US. And they are the most populated Islamic country in the world.

    And are you saying Chamberlain didn't order the biggest military buildup in the UK's history after meeting with Hitler?

    Please, after the Iraqi debacle Bush got us into, why do you think it would have been wise for the British to commit to war when they were totally unprepared?

    Or you could just run like you always do and not answer anything. Thing is, I throw those in there to shame people into not being cowards and actually standing their ground to defend their claims. But I guess that many of you actually like being cowards.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I don't have time to teach you. Read the book.
    Meaning you have no answers. Typical.

    At that point, the brits and the french combined were a lot more ready then the Germans were. Learn the history or continue looking ignorant.
    Uh Huh. Because they had been preparing for war as the foundation of their economy for the past 4+ years. Oh wait. They weren't.

    [quote]Which part of "I have no use for establishment politicians in either party do you not understand? Or do you not understand what "partisanship is?[/quote

    What part of "your posting history is so wildly partisan that right leaning mods have posted disbelief at your claims you're independent" do you not get?

    You are just lashing out now. Yawn. I will also take it that you do not understand the difference between "partisan and leaning to the left or the right".
    On the contrary, I never ever see you criticize a Republican, but look at your own name. You will criticize a democrat for anything and let a Republican get away with anything.

    Again, I don't have time to teach you. I will just point out that I doubt that you understand what was at stake.
    Translation: I don't know.

    Obviously you do not understand the context in which Rumsfeld made that statement. It was in regards to a question by a soldier regarding the military having to catch up on armor plating for Humvees and other military vehicles in convoys to protect them from IEDs set up by insurgents. You are attempting to take the readiness aspect to an extreme level. There are always adjustments that end up being made on the battlefield. The kind of readiness you are attempting to portray is simply not possible. Like it or not, the US military was more prepared and ready for war then any military force on the entire planet. That does not mean that enemy tactics will not change and become dangerous.
    Actually, I know more about this than you do (well, that's everything really). Rumsfeld at the time was in the process of reorganizing the military to be a much faster, smaller, leaner force. He actually had a framework and vision for what to rebuild the army as to serve our future needs. This was a long term project he had started early on in the Bush Administration. He knew exactly what the military was capable of and doing yet he still supported sending a force he knew was bulky, slow and in need of change to fight a force that was asymmetrical, fluid and not going to stand and fight. The Russians learned the hard way in Chechnya that a conventional forces do not do well against guerrilla forces. Yet it took Lt Col. Nagl who actually understood COIN to change things. Rummy knew our military was not ready for this fight yet he sent them in anyways and it showed. You even admitted we were not ready.

    I find the fact that you are putting up a link to a book and expecting me to read it as quite amusing, considering your response to my suggestion that you read the book: "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shirer. You merely ranted: "Partisan! Partisan!
    Lt. Col. Nagl was on the brain trust that turned Iraq around. I trust him more than you who demonstrates nothing but partisan vomit.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Yet we still didn't obtain a real victory in Afghanistan or Iraq because we made new enemies faster than we could kill them.
    And that is the hard truth.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Why can't you answer the question?

    Are you actually disagreeing that Chamberlain ordered a huge military build up after meeting with Hitler?

    There's something about extreme partisan hacks that makes them unable to answer really basic questions.
    I already answered the question. Why aren't you able to read and comprehend? Revisionist historians are unable to read, too!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    don't have to all we need are some Iraq spotters to paint our targets.. we need some time to find out their leaders and then take them out ... and a couple of spectre gun ships c140s Do you favor putting boots on the ground in  the Midddle East to combat the threat?-tha74ypta8-jpg
    Last edited by plutonium; 09-04-14 at 07:09 PM.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I already answered the question. Why aren't you able to read and comprehend? Revisionist historians are unable to read, too!
    Cite the post you did. Otherwise you have failed to answer a very simple question.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Cite the post you did. Otherwise you have failed to answer a very simple question.
    Learn to read, then re-read my posts...THEN read a book. After you read a few books you'll discover that Chamberlain was a master baiter, not a master planner.

    What's next? You're going to tell u what a master tactician Montgomery was?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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