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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What say you?
    Certainly not before the Europeans have dedicated the equal number.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    I voted yes, but with an exception - that exception being that we do it such a way that it doesn't take ten years... overwhelming force with overwhelming firepower and a disarming of everyone over there, and holding any other country responsible militarily that tries to help them. And yes, that would mean the Saudi's (and any other of our so called friends), the Iranians (and any other of our so called enemies) and any-damned-one else that feeds the fire of hate.

    This thing is going to blow up the whole damned world at some point anyway.

    We may as well do it now when the damage would be so much less and the fight would be so less wide spread.

    Either that, or just sit it out completely until a mushroom cloud rises over Manhattan or something similar in scope to 9/11 hits us square in the teeth.

    Call me a war monger if you must, but you can't talk or negotiate with people that behead innocent people, rape women and children en masse, blow themselves up as suicide bombers and actually believe that GOD is demanding that they do so and that when they die they will be better off and go to heaven as praised warriors of God being lavished with pleasures in the afterlife.

    They have nothing to loose in their mind. We have everything to loose.

    But... maybe that's just me, since I've actually been in the cross hairs of people just like these, been under fire from them, wounded in action by them, and seen first hand what they can and will gladly and gleefully do, I may have a skewed view.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    If the threat is here, why send the troops there?

    A plane ticket to Mexico, and the terrorist threat can just walk over, if they get caught, they will join the Mexicans in getting a bus ticket wherever they want to go in the country.
    Yeah.

    And why is it that they haven't seemed to have done so, yet?
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Support the regional powers in their fight against ISIL.

    It is in their vested interest to eradicate the group. Let them bear the primary burden.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Certainly not before the Europeans have dedicated the equal number.
    You have a good point. However, when in history has Europe come to our aid like that. The Britts came close in Iraq, but then backed out quick. Germany and especially France will never do so. Australia (although not European) would be there but not in the numbers we would need because of their local politics.

    NATO action would be the only chance of getting a large number of other nations to participate, but... Turkey is neck deep in subterfuge in the ISIS mess already, and would potentially destabilize a NATO mission to the ME. And, forget action in Ukraine. No European country will go up against Russia as long as the current Administration is in power. They can't rely that we would stick it out, much less do all that is required in the mean time. Red lines mean nothing. Withdrawal dates published to the enemy are incongruent with winning a war. I could go on, but you get my meaning.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Support the regional powers in their fight against ISIL.

    It is in their vested interest to eradicate the group. Let them bear the primary burden.
    The governments in that region are so unstable that the soldiers can't trust that the next guy in power tomorrow won't be one of the enemy that they're fighting today. That's why they turn and run. Not because they are cowards, but because one day they're fighting Sunni's and the next day they may be saluting them.. or if that happens, being beheaded by them. Many of those folks are fierce warriors, but they can't trust that the guy they are taking orders from will be their tomorrow to protect their families.

    We can't rely on them either. If we are going to do anything, we have to do as we did at that dam, and use them as perimeter defense, not direct attack.

    The only exception to this would be the Kurds, but every other power in that region - Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian, Russian, Turkish, etc. - hates the Kurds. It's just a matter of time before they are attacked by other powers as well.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What say you?
    Favor it?

    Of course I don't FAVOR it - but if that's what it takes then so be it. Nevermind the painful irony that our initial involvement furthered this present situation.

    But please - not while Obama's the one calling the shots. He's an idiot of epic proportions and would much sooner have our armed forced sucks his cock and dribble his basketballs than work up an organized plan without telling the world about it. After 6 years you'd think he would have figured out how presidency works but he's still on day 1.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Favor it?

    Of course I don't FAVOR it - but if that's what it takes then so be it. Nevermind the painful irony that our initial involvement furthered this present situation.

    But please - not while Obama's the one calling the shots. He's an idiot of epic proportions and would much sooner have our armed forced sucks his cock and dribble his basketballs than work up an organized plan without telling the world about it. After 6 years you'd think he would have figured out how presidency works but he's still on day 1.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post

    And, forget action in Ukraine. No European country will go up against Russia as long as the current Administration is in power. They can't rely that we would stick it out, much less do all that is required in the mean time. .
    I don't want to derail this thread, but what do you think the USA is required to do in the Ukraine?
    The Europeans are worried about their economies being damaged by sanctions.
    If the Euros aren't willing to take something as insignificant as a hit to their pocketbook, why should we make any sacrifices?
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    I don't want to derail this thread, but what do you think the USA is required to do in the Ukraine?
    The Europeans are worried about their economies being damaged by sanctions.
    If the Euros aren't willing to take something as insignificant as a hit to their pocketbook, why should we make any sacrifices?
    If Europe is fine with allowing a country to annex other countries by force, then don't call us to help after it gets to their own front porch. It's not like this hasn't happened before. And, so we don't derail the thread, that's all I'll say at this point.
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