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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I'm tired of the WWII situation being applied to every subsequent war. The political, cultural and military factors in every war are different. We didn't appease Saddam Hussein and now the region is in a worse situation than if we did nothing.

    The fact is we did not finish the job in Iraq..We should have at least left a residual force there.A SOFA agreement could have been worked out............Obama was just to fast to cut and run.
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    46-17 in favor of not sending troops in. That does not surprise me considering DP is a left leaning forum.
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threat?
    I need a president I can trust to tell me why it's a necessary thing first. As it stands, with the fellow we have, no.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The fact is we did not finish the job in Iraq..We should have at least left a residual force there.A SOFA agreement could have been worked out............Obama was just to fast to cut and run.
    "...With the collapse of discussions about extending the stay of U.S. troops,[32][33] President Obama announced the full withdrawal of troops from Iraq, as previously scheduled, on 21 October 2011.The U.S. retained an embassy in Baghdad[33] with some 17,000 personnel,[34] consulates in Basra, Mosul and Kirkuk, which have been allocated more than 1,000 staff each,[34] and between 4,000 to 5,000 defense contractors.[33] President Obama and al-Maliki outlined a broad agenda for post-war cooperation without American troops in Iraq during a joint press conference on 12 December 2011 at the White House. This agenda included cooperation on energy, trade and education as well as cooperation in security, counter-terrorism, economic development and strengthening Iraq's institutions. Both leaders said their countries would maintain strong security, diplomatic and economic ties after the last U.S. combat forces withdraw..."
    Withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "...The US embassy – the largest and most expensive in the world – is in a green zone of its own in Baghdad, supplied by armed convoys and generating its own water and electricity, and treating its own sewage. At 104 acres, the embassy is almost the same size as Vatican City. It is here that the US is transforming its military-led approach into one of muscular diplomacy.

    State department figures show that some 17,000 personnel will be under the jurisdiction of the US ambassador. In addition, there are also consulates in Basra, Mosul and Kirkuk, which have been allocated more than 1,000 staff each. Crucially, all these US staff, including military and security contractors, will have diplomatic immunity. Essentially, the Obama administration is reaping the political capital of withdrawing US troops while hedging the impact of the withdrawal with an increase in private security contractors working for a diplomatic mission unlike any other on the planet....

    There are an estimated 400 arms deals between Baghdad and Washington, worth $10bn, with an additional 110 deals, worth $900m, reportedly pending. Many of these, as part of the deal, require US trainers, who would be working through the Office of Security Co-operation in the embassy. Bloomberg news reported that this "newly established office will have a core staff of 160 civilians and uniformed military alongside 750 civilian contractors overseeing Pentagon assistance programmes, including military training. They will be guarded, fed and housed by 3,500 additional contract personnel", working in 10 offices around the country .
    Tuesday 25 October 2011
    The US departure from Iraq is an illusion | James Denselow | Comment is free | theguardian.com

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    I voted no. Time for America to stop meddling in the affairs of other countries. Finish the job we started some say. What job and who started it? It's always been about oil companies and their profits I say. When I see the Bush Cheney Baker Kissinger crowd involved, I know it's not about what's good for America.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    I consider this forum mostly right leaning. But then I consider Obama a centrist to right leaning democrat for the most part . Maybe I'm wrong, but I judge him by his actions on the economic front.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    46-17 in favor of not sending troops in. That does not surprise me considering DP is a left leaning forum.
    I am as right as they come, and I don't support going back. Go back for what? At what cost?

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Neo-cons have never seen a war that they didn't absolutely love.
    Un true.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Fighting a war you cant win is just plain stupid.
    Your platitude does not change the idiocy of asking "why not everything at the same time!" like a child.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    When and where has that worked when fighting guerillas?
    In both post-surge Iraq, and in afghanistan. We got damn good at ending them. Ive posted numbers further back in the thread.

    The real problem here is people dont understand what a sustained low-intensity counter insurgency operation entails-it means time. Thanks to our tech, it also means a minimal presence. But there is no substitute for troops on the ground.

    Our enemies believe we dont have the stomach for staying and playing-and laugh at the idea of a withdrawal deadline. This is actually just the date they restart their jihad on schoolgirls. We need to stay until the fighting is done-not until Obama can no longer benefit from something politically.

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