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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I just read a good article by John Bolton .
    Stopped reading at the oxymoron.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    By boots on the ground I mean combat troops.
    Yes as well as aircraft.
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Talking points no more no less.......Facts be told before Obama cut and run things were going pretty well in Iraqq.
    I think you actually believe this.

    There was never any better. A hornets nest was kicked, we destabilized a regime and allowed others to set up shop.

    Since we cannot turn back time and undo the clusterfudge of a mistake (going into Iraq), the best we can do is to learn from our mistakes. A first step in this learning process would be to stay the hell out of the Middle East. The only way to "make sure" things go "well" is to stay there forever with a large presence. Can we agree that is a FITH thing to do?

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I think you actually believe this.

    There was never any better. A hornets nest was kicked, we destabilized a regime and allowed others to set up shop.

    Since we cannot turn back time and undo the clusterfudge of a mistake (going into Iraq), the best we can do is to learn from our mistakes. A first step in this learning process would be to stay the hell out of the Middle East. The only way to "make sure" things go "well" is to stay there forever with a large presence. Can we agree that is a FITH thing to do?
    Ahem.
    Iraq is not a perfect place, but we’re leaving behind a sovereign, stable, and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government... In Afghanistan we’ve broken the momentum of the Taliban... And around the globe, as we draw down in Iraq, we have gone after al Qaeda so that terrorists who threaten America will have no safe haven. - Barack Obama

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That strategy never worked in Nam.
    To be fair, we did not have the precise technology for dropping bombs in the Vietnam Era that we do now. For real precision bombing our pilots had to sweep very low at great risk. Now we can simply paint a target with a laser and the pilot can put the bombs right on the bulls eye. The northern alliance in Afghanistan for instance was stunned in regards to how accurate our bombs and missile strikes were, even with complete cloud cover.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Can you post a link where Obama said he wantted to leave 10,000 troops in Iraq? Thanks
    Anything for you my dear right wing friend.

    Obama wanted to keep 10,000 troops in Iraq, ABC's Raddatz claims

    Obama wanted to keep 10,000 troops in Iraq, ABC's Raddatz claims | PunditFact

    BAGHDAD — Iraq's prime minister said Saturday that U.S. troops are leaving Iraq after nearly nine years of war because Baghdad rejected American demands that any U.S. military forces to stay would have to be shielded from prosecution or lawsuits.


    Iraq PM: Immunity issue scuttled US troop deal - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - Conflict in Iraq | NBC News

    President Obama pulled U.S. forces out of Iraq in 2011 because he couldn’t get Iraq’s parliament to offer U.S. soldiers immunity from Iraqi prosecution. But now Obama is promising to send in hundreds of special operations forces based on a written promise that these soldiers will not be tried in Iraq’s famously compromised courts for actions they are taking in defense of Baghdad.

    The U.S. military and Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel have opposed sending any special operations teams to Iraq until there is a written agreement from Iraq’s government that they will not be prosecuted under Iraqi law. On Monday, the White House spokesman said those promises were provided in an exchange of diplomatic notes. The delay in getting that agreement is one of many reasons why the Pentagon and the White House were reluctant to support air strikes inside Iraq—despite lobbying from Secretary of State John Kerry and his aides.


    Obama Does a U-Turn on Immunity for U.S. Troops in Iraq - The Daily Beast

    So, in short, I agree with Obama on this one. Unless Iraq agrees to give our boys immunity from Iraq's archaic and uncivilized, backward-ass penal system, they can fight their own damn battles.

    AND... if we do go in. Hit them hard, fast and leave no camel un-turned. Let Allah sort them out.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Freedon is not free my left wing friend.
    I never said it was. But then again, policing the world =/= freedom
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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    We're bombing them! Anybody, whether its terrorists or another country will fight back, thats common sense. If somebody was bombing you Im sure you'd fight back too.
    However you are still perhaps without intending to, putting terrorists on a pedestal, The truth is that they do not represent any nation. They do not represent any region. They are simply bloody murderers fighting for a fanatical interpretation of Islam. And we are not killing terrorists for sport. We are killing them because they are murdering innocent men, women, children, and infants. If gangsters come into your town and start killing innocent people on the streets, you are okay with the police or national guard stopping them are you not? Ofcourse the bad guys fight back. They do not want to be killed. However they made the choice when they killed innocents.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I ask again where are all the "moderate" Islamists? Their silence is tacit approval of their brothers actions.
    Good point. It would be quite helpful if the moderate islamists would speak out against the extremists in their ranks. As a Christian, I certainly did not hold back on condemning extremists like David Koresh and Jim Jones.

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    Re: Do you favor putting boots on the ground in the Midddle East to combat the threa

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Ahem.
    Are you all of a sudden caring what Obama says?

    It is a goal, but if it means leaving boots on the ground for years. Screw it. We can let them stabilize themselves. Let them pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

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