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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Yes. ISIS is a threat to the entire world. They need to be eliminated.

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Although I mostly agree with you, they are already over here and all over Europe, if what I've been reading is correct. I didn't support either of our actions in the ME since 9/11, but this group is a bit different, and they have huge amounts of financial backing, and are even more brutal than what we've been dealing with so far.
    Sure and you want to know where that backing is coming from? Our allies! Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey and many other countries we pretend are our "friends" are handing over tons of money to ISIS. Even if we did go in and killed off everyone in ISIS, that would only motivate other Muslim radicals to get even worse. The more we're involved, the worse it's going to get.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Absolutely none of our business. Iraq is a fake country and was always a fake country created by the British. Syria is a fake country. Saudi is a fake country. Iran is the only country in that region besides Turkey that has an actual geographical right to exist.


    Americans should not be dying to fight radicals in a fake country that isn't going to be there in 100 years anyways. Simply bomb them. There is no reason to ever send troops. Ever. If a for profit journalist is killed that's no reason to invade a country in civil war.

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Iran is the only country in that region besides Turkey that has an actual geographical right to exist.
    Why do you think many liberals dont extend that line of thought to Israel, as it currently experiences a wave of terror from many of the same bad actors in the region?

    Fake? And as for the rest its a tragedy what you have stated. Right down to the marxism.

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Why do you think many liberals dont extend that line of thought to Israel, as it currently experiences a wave of terror from many of the same bad actors in the region?

    Fake? And as for the rest its a tragedy what you have stated. Right down to the marxism.
    First off let's start with the grammar corrections then let's get to your illogical statements. It's "don't" not "dont". "It's" not "its".



    Israel is a fake country created by another country. It won't be there in 100 years. Syria is merely a geographic expression as is Saudi and Iraq. Those are fake nations with opposing factions within them and always have been. They never were meant to be actual united nations and history is simply correcting itself. Israel has no natural borders unlike Iran. Israel could never have been created without foreign powers. Israel is a horrendous historical mistake that is going to sadly be another mass death in the future once Arab nations around it amass their inevitable power in the future. That blood and resulting genocide will be on the idiotic hands of those who created the temporary fake state of Israel. It's a disgrace that this future genocide will occur and historically it will be seen as such I've no doubt. Jews have always been internationalists and should never have been "given" a fake little country that is ultimately indefensible long term. I truly almost do wonder if it wasn't Hitlers last wish that such a thing happen. It seriously will go down in history as a disastrous decision for the Jewish people.

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    First off let's start with the grammar corrections then let's get to your illogical statements. It's "don't" not "dont". "It's" not "its".



    Israel is a fake country created by another country. It won't be there in 100 years. Syria is merely a geographic expression as is Saudi and Iraq. Those are fake nations with opposing factions within them and always have been. They never were meant to be actual united nations and history is simply correcting itself. Israel has no natural borders unlike Iran. Israel could never have been created without foreign powers. Israel is a horrendous historical mistake that is going to sadly be another mass death in the future once Arab nations around it amass their inevitable power in the future. That blood and resulting genocide will be on the idiotic hands of those who created the temporary fake state of Israel. It's a disgrace that this future genocide will occur and historically it will be seen as such I've no doubt. Jews have always been internationalists and should never have been "given" a fake little country that is ultimately indefensible long term. I truly almost do wonder if it wasn't Hitlers last wish that such a thing happen. It seriously will go down in history as a disastrous decision for the Jewish people.
    You open with complaints of grammar, and then proceed in a hateful rant. Is there a need for such hostility?

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Absolutely none of our business. Iraq is a fake country and was always a fake country created by the British. Syria is a fake country. Saudi is a fake country. Iran is the only country in that region besides Turkey that has an actual geographical right to exist.


    Americans should not be dying to fight radicals in a fake country that isn't going to be there in 100 years anyways. Simply bomb them. There is no reason to ever send troops. Ever. If a for profit journalist is killed that's no reason to invade a country in civil war.
    Countries rise and fall, and it's quite arbitrary. Natural, physical borders like a river or mountain pass do not give any more legitimacy to a nation. I'm not sure why you think that's a prequalifier, but you're wrong. The borders of Germany are largely arbitrary and have changed many times over the past 150 years, does that make Germany less legitimate?

    Just about every piece of land on earth has been taken with violence. It's simply the way it's always been. I see that you absolutely reject the idea of arabs coexisiting with jews. You seem to be on the same level of hateful intolerance as the violent extremists. Stop spreading hate.
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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I don't view it as a moral imperative at all. Just an imperative to kill barbarians. I'm not usually one to support wars, but this is different from what we've seen before. They need to be eradicated.
    Eradicated?

    Every soldier within it or just the organization?

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You open with complaints of grammar, and then proceed in a hateful rant. Is there a need for such hostility?

    I'm trying to save lives and prevent fanatical, historically and ideologically contradictory JudeoChristian rightists from having Israel nuked. Your position of relocating a people solely based on a religion to a small plot of land surrounded by hostiles, that is the hateful, hostile position.



    Just think when Arab nations reach their zenith in the future. Do you truly think Iran will forget how many of their scientists Israel murdered? Do you think other Arab nations will forget such transgressions? Israel is a ticking disaster and every single person who advocated it will be historically maligned.

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Self explanatory thread title. What do you say?
    I don't think it's moral...I think it's self interest. Issis taking over an oil rich nation is bad news....if only we could bring Saddam back into power. He was a tyrant and bloodthirsty but he kept the Huns at bay...
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