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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    So far ISIS has taken some ground killed some people.

    Al Qaeda did the same sort of thing, and the US didn't get involved until after 9/11, and then it was in a big way.

    Seems likely that we've not learned from that experience, not learned the wisdom of fighting these types of people on their soil rather than ours, so we'll have to go through it again, on our soil, our citizens dieing, until we'll become involved yet again, and then again in a big way, with big expense and big collateral casualties.

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    To the bolded: Do you really think so? I would be surprised. Security has become so tight since the dept of homeland security was formed, and now the NSA has had the reins loosened and had their powers broadened. I would surprised if any major attacks happen over here nowadays. Perhaps I'm just nave.
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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    No. The US doesn't have a moral responsibility to combat Isis. A better question would be, is it in America's best interest to combat Isis? To that question, I'd answer with option number 4.

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    To the bolded: Do you really think so? I would be surprised. Security has become so tight since the dept of homeland security was formed, and now the NSA has had the reins loosened and had their powers broadened. I would surprised if any major attacks happen over here nowadays. Perhaps I'm just nave.
    The human is the most innovative, creative and persistent problem solver that planet has seen. Further, no man made thing is perfect or infallible. When the two meet, a persistent and resourceful enemy, and human flaws in man made security systems, there'll be a breach, and something will be through.

    It has been reported, and only rumors perhaps, that ISIS leaders and Mexican drug cartels are talking. One can only imagine that they are talking about smuggling roots across the Southern US border for the purpose of infiltration for nefarious purposes.

    No, it's far better to combat such an enemy on their ground and away from your 'soft underbelly'. Should they actually arrive here and strike here, can you imagine the severity of the abridgement of individual rights to catch them and keep them out, this close to home? Who knows, perhaps they'll assassinate congress (doing us favors?) or the president, which would throw the US government into a tail spin for some time.
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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    The human is the most innovative, creative and persistent problem solver that planet has seen. Further, no man made thing is perfect or infallible. When the two meet, a persistent and resourceful enemy, and human flaws in man made security systems, there'll be a breach, and something will be through.

    It has been reported, and only rumors perhaps, that ISIS leaders and Mexican drug cartels are talking. One can only imagine that they are talking about smuggling roots across the Southern US border for the purpose of infiltration for nefarious purposes.

    No, it's far better to combat such an enemy on their ground and away from your 'soft underbelly'. Should they actually arrive here and strike here, can you imagine the severity of the abridgement of individual rights to catch them and keep them out, this close to home? Who knows, perhaps they'll assassinate congress (doing us favors?) or the president, which would throw the US government into a tail spin for some time.
    The cartels have never known pain like being labeled a terrorist group. Hopefully they know that.

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The cartels have never known pain like being labeled a terrorist group. Hopefully they know that.
    Dunno. They seem pretty arrogant, killing border security and ATF agents, running people and drugs across the border pretty freely and all. Not to mention all the murdering and kidnapping they are doing within Mexico. Acting pretty much a terrorist organization already, one could say.

    What additional pressures would come upon them should they be labeled a terrorist group?
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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Dunno. They seem pretty arrogant, killing border security and ATF agents, running people and drugs across the border pretty freely and all. Not to mention all the murdering and kidnapping they are doing within Mexico. Acting pretty much a terrorist organization already, one could say.

    What additional pressures would come upon them should they be labeled a terrorist group?
    In entering the war on terror as terrorists they would by fought by our military, and hopefully Mexico's. Im talking about making it rain. All day every day and they can watch their supply lines and portals of entry into the US disappear.

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    No, we've screwed up the Middle East enough. Time to call it done, learn from our mistakes, and get the **** out of there.

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    No, we've screwed up the Middle East enough. Time to call it done, learn from our mistakes, and get the **** out of there.
    You do realize it was worse before we got there, right?

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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    In entering the war on terror as terrorists they would by fought by our military, and hopefully Mexico's. Im talking about making it rain. All day every day and they can watch their supply lines and portals of entry into the US disappear.
    I'd be OK with making it rain on the drug cartels.

    Isn't the Mexican army already in combat with the cartels now?
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    Re: Does the US have a moral responsibility to help combat ISIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Self explanatory thread title. What do you say?
    a moral imperative? No. An imperative to eradicate a clear and present danger? Yes.

    But, if we're going in to wipe out ISIS, then let's wipe out ISIS and not go in without a clear objective and a will to win at any cost. If this is war, then let's wage war, and not try to convert them to democracy.
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