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Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children?

Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children?

  • Yes it sends the wrong message

    Votes: 10 18.9%
  • No. It's perfectly acceptable.

    Votes: 43 81.1%

  • Total voters
    53
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

You don't get elected VP in this country sir.

I'm not a sir. Please pay attention to the info under the avatar....unless you'd like me to address you as 'miss'.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Well then you don't get elected VP in this country Mam.
I'm not a sir. Please pay attention to the info under the avatar....unless you'd like me to address you as 'miss'.
Being half British myself, with the other half descended from Quebec, I've always enjoyed debate Parliament style.
I'd love to see Obama go toe-to-toe with the congressional morons who've been trashing him for six years .
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Not an all. If the president were fat, and my kids noticed that, I would say "see, even the leader of America can get fat if they don't eat healthy. If you don't think that extra twinkie will make you fat, just look at what happened to the president." Then my kid will freak out every time he sees the president, fear they will get fat if they eat unhealthy, and bam there you go. Healthier kids.

For the record, this is one of the most idiotic topics I've ever seen.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Which makes me wonder why was he attacked by some on the right for that video of him doing sissy exercises in a hotel gym.
I rolled my eyes over that one. Even "sissy exercises", as he was doing them, have benefit.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

How so?

Is it your claim that no person of heft has ever been an effective world leader?



Yeah yeah okay so yes we can have a fatass be our president but then what's that say to kids who only see the fat person on TV, their minds don't intercept anything else but that the president is fat.


Can you imagine Christie standing next to Putin? What a catastrophic photo op that would be. Politically that stuff matters in how the country is perceived whether you like it or not.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Yeah yeah okay so yes we can have a fatass be our president but then what's that say to kids who only see the fat person on TV, their minds don't intercept anything else but that the president is fat.

We should ban ALL fat people from TV, by that rationale.

Can you imagine Christie standing next to Putin? What a catastrophic photo op that would be. Politically that stuff matters in how the country is perceived whether you like it or not.

Yes, I remember when Taft was president and we were immediately overrun by Pancho Villa's forces.

Your entire premise is mindbendingly stupid.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

You know what else sends a message of irresponsibility.

ADVOCATING PICKING A PRESIDENT WITH THE SAME STANDARDS AS A GOD DAMNED PROM QUEEN.



I'm just saying, if you want your nation to be judged as a fat blob then elect a fat blob. It's basic human sociology. If your tribe leader is fat it says a lot about the overall state of that tribe that he could even be tribe leader. Other nations will judge your insecurities based off the fact that your leader is fat. Every human knows a fat persons insecurities.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Yeah yeah okay so yes we can have a fatass be our president but then what's that say to kids who only see the fat person on TV, their minds don't intercept anything else but that the president is fat.

Can you imagine Christie standing next to Putin? What a catastrophic photo op that would be. Politically that stuff matters in how the country is perceived whether you like it or not.
First off, kids don't have the intellectual discernment to form an objective opinion to begin with, so the value of their opinion is minimal, at best. That's why we educate them as they grow up. That's what growing up is, learning how to discern.

Second, sure, shallow people will perceive and/or spin such things negatively, but we do that now with things such as political cartoons, i.e. Jimmy Carter's huge teeth, or Barack Obama's big ears. If you're so concerned with perception over ability then we should presume you are also against us having women leaders and ambassadors because some countries and cultures do not respect women.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

First off, kids don't have the intellectual discernment to form an objective opinion to begin with

Second, sure, shallow people will perceive and/or spin such things negatively,


So basically, what I took from your post:

"Yes, it will have a negative impact on children because they can't discern yet beyond imagery and shallowness..but my biases completely negate being able to be honest about this issue."
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

So basically, what I took from your post:

"Yes, it will have a negative impact on children because they can't discern yet beyond imagery and shallowness..but my biases completely negate being able to be honest about this issue."
If you chop up and cherry-pick my words, sure, you can take whatever you want.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

I'm just saying, if you want your nation to be judged as a fat blob then elect a fat blob. It's basic human sociology. If your tribe leader is fat it says a lot about the overall state of that tribe that he could even be tribe leader. Other nations will judge your insecurities based off the fact that your leader is fat. Every human knows a fat persons insecurities.
so you'd rather have a svelte moron than a fat rational thinker?

okay

now how is that a healthy message to send to children....don't worry about using your brain, just look fit?
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

so you'd rather have a svelte moron than a fat rational thinker?

okay

now how is that a healthy message to send to children....don't worry about using your brain, just look fit?



Because there's plenty of rational fit people. We don't have to elect a fat slob to national office. It doesn't bode well for their supposed intellect and all your other insane arguments when they can't obviously even manage their own bodies.
Look at the mass illogical reality of your own logic. You're arguing that we should elect a fat responsible person who can manage the world.. yet they cannot seem to manage their own bodies.. Oh yes, that adds up perfectly..


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So responsible.. What stalwarts of self control and rationality..
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Because there's plenty of rational fit people. We don't have to elect a fat slob to national office. It doesn't bode well for their supposed intellect and all your other insane arguments when they can't obviously even manage their own bodies.
Look at the mass illogical reality of your own logic. You're arguing that we should elect a fat responsible person who can manage the world.. yet they cannot seem to manage their own bodies.. Oh yes, that adds up perfectly..

So apparently, fat people are stupid.

It's pretty sad that you're applying the same standards used when up chicks at a bar to selecting our next president.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

So apparently, fat people are stupid.

It's pretty sad that you're applying the same standards used when up chicks at a bar to selecting our next president.


No we're just using basic logic here, nothing fancy. Think on it. Is a fat person really the most responsible policy maker you can find? How responsible could they really truly be if they can't control their own bodies?
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Because there's plenty of rational fit people. We don't have to elect a fat slob to national office. It doesn't bode well for their supposed intellect and all your other insane arguments when they can't obviously even manage their own bodies.
Look at the mass illogical reality of your own logic. You're arguing that we should elect a fat responsible person who can manage the world.. yet they cannot seem to manage their own bodies.. Oh yes, that adds up perfectly..


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So responsible.. What stalwarts of self control and rationality..

actually if you read my post, I didn't advocate nor argue for or against anything, rather I questioned so I could better understand your logic

so what fat slob are you afraid is going to be your next president?
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

actually if you read my post, I didn't advocate nor argue for or against anything, rather I questioned so I could better understand your logic

so what fat slob are you afraid is going to be your next president?


I read your illogical post. It was illogical and I noted that and you seemed not to be fond of that notation which I assumed you wouldn't be.




I'm not afraid a fat slob will be president. All a president represents is image to 99.9% of everyone and anything. Children are shallow and see things in images. It sends the wrong message to have an irresponsible fat person running the country. It's simply degrading to a country to be run by a physically irresponsible human.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

I read your illogical post. It was illogical and I noted that and you seemed not to be fond of that notation which I assumed you wouldn't be.
:shock:
you may well have read my post but you certainly did not understand it

you assumed now what could go wrong there...


I'm not afraid a fat slob will be president. All a president represents is image to 99.9% of everyone and anything. Children are shallow and see things in images. It sends the wrong message to have an irresponsible fat person running the country. It's simply degrading to a country to be run by a physically irresponsible human.

intelligentsia... yeah okay then

:thanks no further argument needed
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

No we're just using basic logic here, nothing fancy. Think on it. Is a fat person really the most responsible policy maker you can find? How responsible could they really truly be if they can't control their own bodies?

"Basic logic" dictates that fat people cannot make responsible public policy?
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children?

Should this even be allowed considering the health message it sends to US children that the leader of the free world can be medically fat?


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Don't be ridiculous, Ryan. Fatties aren't really people.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

"Basic logic" dictates that fat people cannot make responsible public policy?


Well sir, I don't know, you tell me.


Your in shape, healthy hypothetical daughter, son that you've spent tens of thousands educating and clothing over the years walks in with a visibly fat person who they're dating. If you're being honest, which I'm not at all assuming you actually will be, are you thrilled with that situation when said suitor leaves and you have time to talk to your son, daughter? How is that conversation really going to go do you think if you're being honest with yourself? Are you truly seeing that man, woman your son, daughter brought home in a "responsible" light or an "irresponsible" light?

Again I'm not assuming you're going to be honest with that question but if you are honest then we all know what the answer would be.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Well sir, I don't know, you tell me.


Your in shape, healthy hypothetical daughter, son that you've spent tens of thousands educating and clothing over the years walks in with a visibly fat person who they're dating. If you're being honest, which I'm not at all assuming you actually will be, are you thrilled with that situation when said suitor leaves and you have time to talk to your son, daughter? How is that conversation really going to go do you think if you're being honest with yourself? Are you truly seeing that man, woman your son, daughter brought home in a "responsible" light or an "irresponsible" light?

Again I'm not assuming you're going to be honest with that question but if you are honest then we all know what the answer would be.

My "situation" would be that if that person makes my hypothetical child happy and treats them properly, if they want to date a fat person, that's their business.

Some people are simply predisposed to suffering from weight problems. It happens. They're not all weak-willed pigs strapping on a feedbag. Your blatant, obvious disdain of the overweight is duly noted.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

My "situation" would be that if that person makes my hypothetical child happy and treats them properly, if they want to date a fat person, that's their business.

Some people are simply predisposed to suffering from weight problems. It happens. They're not all weak-willed pigs strapping on a feedbag. Your blatant, obvious disdain of the overweight is duly noted.


I so do not believe that would be your reaction after said fat person left and you were talking to your hypothetical daughter. :)
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

I so do not believe that would be your reaction after said fat person left and you were talking to your hypothetical daughter. :)

I so do not care.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children?

Should this even be allowed considering the health message it sends to US children that the leader of the free world can be medically fat?

Horrible poll options. I'd choose "irrelevant". We're supposed to elect the best person for the job. Doesn't matter their looks. Instead of making our kids worry about their looks we should instead be making them worry about gaining knowledge so that they can succeed in life. One of the things that really ticks me off about today's society is its superficiality. If you're a woman and don't have an hour glass figure then you're dismissed as if you're were nothing more than a piece of meat. If you're a guy and don't have 6-pak abbs the same thing. Its disgusting that people would rather worry about that crap than their intelligence.
 
Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

Well sir, I don't know, you tell me.


Your in shape, healthy hypothetical daughter, son that you've spent tens of thousands educating and clothing over the years walks in with a visibly fat person who they're dating. If you're being honest, which I'm not at all assuming you actually will be, are you thrilled with that situation when said suitor leaves and you have time to talk to your son, daughter? How is that conversation really going to go do you think if you're being honest with yourself? Are you truly seeing that man, woman your son, daughter brought home in a "responsible" light or an "irresponsible" light?

Again I'm not assuming you're going to be honest with that question but if you are honest then we all know what the answer would be.

No, you only know what YOUR answer would be. Based on what you are saying here such an answer would no doubt be based on superficial shallowness. I for one would not care what guy/gal my daughter/son came home with looked like. I'm more interested in whether they are truly caring and if they actually have a brain and use it. If they lack in either of those or have both of those I would tell my kids what I honestly think. Why? Because I'm bringing my kids up to be HONEST.
 
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