Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children?

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You don't get elected VP in this country sir.
And Cheney continues to be the MUlti-million--dollar medical prodigee of our health system.

Not bad for five deferments during Vietnam.
He became a chicken**** chickenhawk shortly after and personally gets more credit for murdering 4,500 of our soldiers than any asshole in the Bush admin.

Scrabaholic said:

Didn't Dick Cheney have heart problems? He still got elected as VP.

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And he'd get arrested for traveling even in your country--good on Canada .

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Caine said:

My God, he is advocating a Goldilocks and the Three Bears style of fitting a President....

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Who is 'he?'

Hmm, lots of add interpretations here.

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Idiotic poll.

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Caine said:

Oh.... I just thought you should know.... A more RECENT photo of Chris Christie....

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Yeah, he lost weight...but only after he had an operation because he was not strong enough to do it on his own.

Chris Christie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I lost over 40 pounds once. Hey, it wasn't easy...but I did it...and I am a nobody.

This guy wants to be POTUS and he still could not show enough discipline to just stop overeating.

Not only do I think he has lousy ideas and has people in his inner circle apparently doing mega-stupid things while he is clueless (or worse, he is just a liar about the bridge nonsense)...and he is also a weak man personally.

The guy wants to be the most powerful guy in the world and he cannot even stop himself from over-eating.

That is understandable if you are a nobody with little motivation to stay fit. But when you want to run for POTUS, it's pathetically weak, imo.

I think both Obama and GW Bush are/were lousy POTUS's...but at least they have the self-control to look after their bodies. It's the least you can do if you are POTUS.


And you Christie lovers, please save your words of support for this guy.

The guy is weak...period.

That's fine if you are 'normal'...but not if you want to be President of the United States....not in my book.

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I probably wouldn't vote for an obese person anymore than a person who smokes two packs a day.

It does tell me something about them. A lack of self control and short term gratification at the expense of long term good.

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DA60 said:

Yeah, he lost weight...but only after he had an operation because he was not strong enough to do it on his own.

I lost over 40 pounds once. Hey, it wasn't easy...but I did it...and I am a nobody.

This guy wants to be POTUS and he still could not show enough discipline to just stop overeating.

Not only do I think he has lousy ideas and has people in his inner circle apparently doing mega-stupid things while he is clueless (or worse, he is just a liar about the bridge nonsense)...and he is also a weak man personally.

The guy wants to be the most powerful guy in the world and he cannot even stop himself from over-eating.

That is understandable if you are a nobody with little motivation to stay fit. But when you want to run for POTUS, it's pathetically weak, imo.

I think both Obama and GW Bush are/were lousy POTUS's...but at least they have the self-control to look after their bodies. It's the least you can do if you are POTUS.

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And Obama cannot stop himself from smoking.
And Clinton could not stop himself from ****ing random whores.
And I realize I only know the examples of vices from these Democrat past presidents, but none from the Republican ones... not saying there are none, I should go find out what vices the Bushs and Reagan had and mention that too.

People aren't perfect human beings, Presidents aren't either. Don't expect them to be.

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Caine said:

And Obama cannot stop himself from smoking.
And Clinton could not stop himself from ****ing random whores.
And I realize I only know the examples of vices from these Democrat past presidents, but none from the Republican ones... not saying there are none, I should go find out what vices the Bushs and Reagan had and mention that too.

People aren't perfect human beings, Presidents aren't either. Don't expect them to be.

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1) Obama apparently quit smoking.

Obama jokes that first lady 'scared' him into quitting smoking - NBC News


And I quit smoking as well (and crack and gambling and drinking and overeating).
Smoking is both an emotional and physical addiction...overeating is tough but only emotional. Quitting smoking is harder, imo (and I am not going to debate people about it - it is).

And it all depends how much you smoke as well.

Fat is fat.


2) I don't care if POTUS's have vices...but not ones that seriously jeopardize their health...as being a fat pig does (especially if you are middle aged like Christie). You don't believe me - ask a doctor.

Smoking a couple cigs or getting bj's from interns is not going to give you a stroke probably...but being really fat and middle aged just might.

I don't want a repeat of what happened to Wilson

Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I am not going to debate this.

Being in decent shape (i.e. not a fat pig) is the VERY LEAST you can do if you are going to be the most powerful person in the world with the ability to start WW3 on a virtual whim.

And the fact that this ding dong cannot even manage that without surgery proves that he is a VERY weak man.

Lots of people are very weak - I can be (as shown from above). But they are not running for President.

Hey, I am a nobody. And if I can quit over eating/crack/smoking/gambling/drinking...then this slob can at least quit pigging out for the good of the nation. If he can't even do that on his own, then he has no business being POTUS, imo.

You don't agree...fine.


We are done on this.


Good day.

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If I had a weight problem (which I do not), I'd be pretty damn pissed off at a few people in this thread. Judgmental much?

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Kobie said:

If I had a weight problem (which I do not), I'd be pretty damn pissed off at a few people in this thread. Judgmental much?

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It wasn't enough to say "fat." No, "pig" had to be attached.

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nota bene said:

It wasn't enough to say "fat." No, "pig" had to be attached.

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Assuming you are referring to me.

a) what's it to you?

and b) I was fat...and I lost weight. When I was fat...I felt like, looked like and WAS a fat pig.

c) I would call Christie a pig even if he was thin as a rail...I detest his politics. Politically, he is a first class loser in my book.

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DA60 said:

Assuming you are referring to me.

a) what's it to you?

and b) I was fat...and I lost weight. When I was fat...I felt like, looked like and WAS a fat pig.

c) I would call Christie a pig even if he was thin as a rail...I detest his politics. Politically, he is a first class loser in my book.

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And you're entitled to your opinion. Congratulations on losing the weight. But not everyone who's overweight is a "fat pig," which is an extremely common epithet. I think it's pretty clear that you were tying "fat" together with "pig" and that you're very unkind and judgmental.

I've known people who have nearly died from lap-band surgery, who've gone for months (medically supervised) without consuming any food at all, who were only allowed to chew sugar-free gum--people who have made heroic efforts and who have failed.

Next time you see somebody in Walmart and think, "Fat pig," just remember that you don't know what that person's health issues are or anything else. Just be grateful that you succeeded and remember that these people are more to be pitied than scorned.

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DA60 said:

Assuming you are referring to me.

a) what's it to you?

and b) I was fat...and I lost weight. When I was fat...I felt like, looked like and WAS a fat pig.

c) I would call Christie a pig even if he was thin as a rail...I detest his politics. Politically, he is a first class loser in my book.

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There are some cases wherein a person's weight is outside their control.

I don't think it's more than 10% of overweight persons at most, though that's purely a guess.

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nota bene said:

And you're entitled to your opinion. Congratulations on losing the weight. But not everyone who's overweight is a "fat pig," which is an extremely common epithet. I think it's pretty clear that you were tying "fat" together with "pig" and that you're very unkind and judgmental.

I've known people who have nearly died from lap-band surgery, who've gone for months (medically supervised) without consuming any food at all, who were only allowed to chew sugar-free gum--people who have made heroic efforts and who have failed.

Next time you see somebody in Walmart and think, "Fat pig," just remember that you don't know what that person's health issues are or anything else. Just be grateful that you succeeded and remember that these people are more to be pitied than scorned.

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Not that it is any of your business...but I do not call people that are fat 'pigs' unless I dislike them. I feel badly for them because I know what it was like. Just like I feel bad for crackheads and drunks and gamblers and smokers...because I know what being those was like as well.

I dislike Chris Christie. I think he is a pig (even if he was thin).

Polticians are fair game to me. If they don't like it - don't run for office.


Now I have wasted enough time on this nonsense...believe whatever you wish...you obviously will no matter what I say.

And if you are going to put words in my mouth and basically call me a liar when I tell you something and you say it is not true even though you do not know me....the do not waste my time again.

If you are going to put words in my mouth...I do not care what you think.


We are done here.


Good day.

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Ben K. said:

I probably wouldn't vote for an obese person anymore than a person who smokes two packs a day.

It does tell me something about them. A lack of self control and short term gratification at the expense of long term good.

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Exactly.


What's the societal message little Jimmy gets when he see's that the person who leads the world can't actually fit into their own Navies submarines?


What's that say about that society to a kid who is too young to process any other info save for imagery? We shouldn't have a human piglet for leader of the free world. It sends a message of irresponsibility.

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DA60 said:

Not that it is any of your business...but I do not call people that are fat 'pigs' unless I dislike them. I feel badly for them because I know what it was like. Just like I feel bad for crackheads and drunks and gamblers and smokers...because I know what being those was like as well.

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Now I have wasted enough time on this nonsense...believe whatever you wish...you obviously will no matter what I say.


We are done here.


Good day.

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You have a wonderfully self-congratulatory day.

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The Mark said:

There are some cases wherein a person's weight is outside their control.

I don't think it's more than 10% of overweight persons at most, though that's purely a guess.

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Fine...prove to me with links to unbiased facts that Christie fits in that category and I will take it back.

I HIGHLY doubt he fits in that category.

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nota bene said:

You have a wonderfully self-congratulatory day.

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LOL

You just cannot stop putting words in people's mouths, can you?

I am not congratulating myself for anything. Where exactly did I congratulate myself for anything?

The answer is - I did not.

I quit those vices and they were difficult. But I have never once said 'Hey, look at me. I quit these things.'

The fact that I started them all in the first place shows just how weak I can be.

So, if anything, I am insulting myself.

Sheesh.

But you put those words in my mouth anyway.


Now we are done...good day.

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DA60 said:

Fine...prove to me with links to unbiased facts that Christie fits in that category and I will take it back.

I HIGHLY doubt he fits in that category.

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I wasn't talking about Christie.

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The Mark said:

I wasn't talking about Christie.

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I was.


Good day.

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DA60 said:

I was.


Good day.

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*waves languidly*


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Re: Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children

This poll troubles me because of so many wanting to mold and form what should be politically correct and acceptable. There was another poll up recently about the age differences between spouses suggesting we should make it illegal for such marriages to occur. What the Hell is wrong with some of you people? You got a problem with liberty and freedom? If a person is happy being fat, what skin is it off your nose? If a person is happy being married to someone much older, why should you want to stick your big nose into their business? Some people have gnarly looking teeth but their minds and hearts are exemplary. Should they not apply for the job of presidency or public office because of their teeth? If you are looking past what a candidate has to offer in the way of accomplishments, education, experience, his mindset and his heart, then you have gone too damn far.

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vesper said:

You got a problem with liberty and freedom? If a person is happy being fat, what skin is it off your nose?

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It's fine if a person wants to be fat or is fat. Nobody is saying those are bad people. What we are saying is that those people shouldn't be leading the world. Would you let a pack a day smoker lead the world who actually had a smoke in their hands on TV? No. Why would you let a medically fat person run the world and be on TV? It's the same thing.

The same negative health message is sent to young minds of young children. Fat is okay. Being really fat is even so okay that you can run the world. That is the wrong message for developing minds.

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Ryan5 said:

It's fine if a person wants to be fat or is fat. Nobody is saying those are bad people. What we are saying is that those people shouldn't be leading the world. Would you let a pack a day smoker lead the world who actually had a smoke in their hands on TV? No. Why would you let a medically fat person run the world and be on TV? It's the same thing.

The same negative health message is sent to young minds of young children. Fat is okay. Being really fat is even so okay that you can run the world. That is the wrong message for developing minds.

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Lead the world? Hell I would be happy with a jolly fat person at this point that could lead this country by promoting sound policies that will insure it will be around for another 100 years.
A lot of folks with weight issues are due to things out of their control. It has nothing to do with eating too much or eating the wrong foods. Everyone has at least one fat person in their family and they don't view them as sending young minds a negative message. The negative messages being sent to young children are often being sent by fit, thin people.

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Ryan5 said:

Is electing a medically fat US President sending the wrong message to US children?

Should this even be allowed considering the health message it sends to US children that the leader of the free world can be medically fat?

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Well, physical appearance is one thing, but what is the "message" when the nation elects an unqualified rock star? What is the message when the nation then re-elects said rock star when he has proven to be a liar, incompetent and having created a nightmare in foreign relations.

I guess it's all OK if he is good looking and slim and his wife is an angry crusader for what children eat.

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vesper said:

Lead the world? Hell I would be happy with a jolly fat person at this point that could lead this country by promoting sound policies that will insure it will be around for another 100 years.
A lot of folks with weight issues are due to things out of their control. It has nothing to do with eating too much or eating the wrong foods. Everyone has at least one fat person in their family and they don't view them as sending young minds a negative message. The negative messages being sent to young children are often being sent by fit, thin people.

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That is why this thread.

Obama's domestic policy is in shambles, we don't dare say the word "Obamacare", his foreign policy moves now has him poised to enter into yet another war, Iraq redux, Putin is wiping his ass with the Ukraine.


He has run out of things with which to distract heading into the mid terms [that he so desperately needs to win] so what better idea than to turn the debate over to the new "terrorist', Obesity?

We see Obama, slim and trim, then a long list of pics of a chubby and old Hillary, and some really, really fat beasts, and the focus is then on "lifestyle" complete with dictates and judgements passed.

And all the while, we are NOT thinking about that health insurance premium we have to make this month, the rent and how to do that on half the salary you used to make. And we forget to ask just when Americas troops will be coming home or what, ultimately happened about that plane the Russians shot down in which the president said he would unearth every stone..blah, blah.

And we will not remember that it was Obama who arbitrarily withdrew US forces out of Iraq triggering the current civil war.

And, looking at all this ugly fat, we will forget to ask that other lifestyle question: has the president stopped smoking.