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    Re: Is Fat the New Normal in America?

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    By Sherry Rauh
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    If you're tall enough to stand out in a crowd, you're probably aware of your tallness maybe even self-conscious about it. But imagine that you're in a room full of basketball players. Suddenly, you don't seem so tall anymore. Your above-average height feels normal.
    The same scenario -- but with weight, not height -- may be happening throughout the U.S.
    According to the CDC, two-thirds of Americans are overweight or obese. Now that the average body weight tends toward plump rather than svelte, the perception of what's normal may be sliding. And that may have health consequences that are flying under your radar.
    The New Normal

    The average American is 23 pounds heavier than his or her ideal body weight. If we equate "normal" with average, it's not much of a stretch to say it's normal to be fat.







    "For children and for many adults who are overweight, they are starting to perceive themselves as the new normal," says obesity expert Robert F. Kushner, MD, MS. Overweight people may dismiss their weight, he tells WebMD, because they feel "everyone else looks exactly the same." Kushner is a professor at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine and clinical director of the Northwestern Comprehensive Center on Obesity.
    "It's quite clear that people are changing their idea of what an acceptable body size is," says Nicholas Christakis, MD, PhD, of Harvard Medical School. As the average body weight goes up, there's more acceptance of heavier body types. This, in turn, clears the path for even more people to put on weight, says Christakis, who is the co-author of Connected: The Surprising Power of Our Social Networks and How They Change Lives.
    Are Americans Really Getting Fatter?

    The rate of obesity has climbed dramatically in the past 20 years: A third of adults are obese today, compared to 23% in the late 1980s. But this trend may have reached a plateau. According to a new study in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the obesity rate has not changed significantly in the past few years.
    That's no reason to become complacent, Kushner says. "The prevalence of obesity is leveling off, but it's leveling off at flood stage. So we need to turn that around."
    Is Weight Gain Contagious?

    How did we get to that "flood stage" of obesity? Maybe you should look around you.
    "Our work suggests that weight gain spreads in social networks," says Christakis, who has researched the spread of obesity.
    His findings, published in The New England Journal of Medicine in 2009, show that your odds of becoming obese rise by 57% if you have a friend who becomes obese and by 40% if your sibling becomes obese."We're social animals," Christakis says. "We're influenced by the choices and actions and appearance and behaviors of those around us."
    In short, our social contacts -- the people in our lives -- have a big influence on what we eat, how much we exercise, and how we judge our own appearance. This may help explain why obesity rates are not the same throughout the country. In fact, there are what might be called obesity hotspots.
    I could care less if people are shopping at the Kmart, with a bad wheel on a shopping cart, filled to well over capacity with Hostess Twinkies and Ding Dongs, in their undersized sweats with their belly peaking out fat. You know, the kind of fat where the pizza delivery guy has 4 or 5 extra large pies that he flings at the couple like they were show dogs jumping though hoops fat. You know, so fat their belt size is, wait for it...........the equator. Baba bump. I don't care one whit. In fact when I get old and infirm, which is coming much sooner than I care know, I will aspire to be so fat I can play Jabba the Hut in the Stars Wars movie and be pretty damn convincing. So really I just don't care about fat people one way or another, and honestly wonder why busy bodied mutts have get into their business, when it aint theirs to begin with.
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    Re: Is Fat the New Normal in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    If you're tall enough to stand out in a crowd, you're probably aware of your tallness maybe even self-conscious about it. But imagine that you're in a room full of basketball players. Suddenly, you don't seem so tall anymore. Your above-average height feels normal.
    Not true. Standing around basketball players, my 6'1 feels like short, not average. It happened today. It was strange to see the world from a short person's eyes.

    I agree fat is the new "normal".

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    Re: Is Fat the New Normal in America?

    If you are a woman with a body fat percentage of over 30% then you are clinically overweight. If you are a man with a body fat percentage of over 19% then you are clinically over weight.

    The average body fat percentage for American men is 28.1% and for American women it is 40%. Of course this is held down a lot because of younger people in the studies. If you looked at the average for men over the age of 30 it would be much higher. Men with waists larger than 102 cm (40 inches) and women with waists larger than 88 cm (35 inches) have a much greater risk of developing type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and cardiovascular disease.
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    Re: Is Fat the New Normal in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Is Fat Normal in America? A Surprising Reason Why We


    Is Fat the New Normal?

    A rise in average body weight may be changing how we see ourselves.
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    By Sherry Rauh
    WebMD Feature

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    If you're tall enough to stand out in a crowd, you're probably aware of your tallness maybe even self-conscious about it. But imagine that you're in a room full of basketball players. Suddenly, you don't seem so tall anymore. Your above-average height feels normal.
    The same scenario -- but with weight, not height -- may be happening throughout the U.S.
    According to the CDC, two-thirds of Americans are overweight or obese. Now that the average body weight tends toward plump rather than svelte, the perception of what's normal may be sliding. And that may have health consequences that are flying under your radar.
    The New Normal

    The average American is 23 pounds heavier than his or her ideal body weight. If we equate "normal" with average, it's not much of a stretch to say it's normal to be fat.







    "For children and for many adults who are overweight, they are starting to perceive themselves as the new normal," says obesity expert Robert F. Kushner, MD, MS. Overweight people may dismiss their weight, he tells WebMD, because they feel "everyone else looks exactly the same." Kushner is a professor at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine and clinical director of the Northwestern Comprehensive Center on Obesity.
    "It's quite clear that people are changing their idea of what an acceptable body size is," says Nicholas Christakis, MD, PhD, of Harvard Medical School. As the average body weight goes up, there's more acceptance of heavier body types. This, in turn, clears the path for even more people to put on weight, says Christakis, who is the co-author of Connected: The Surprising Power of Our Social Networks and How They Change Lives.
    Are Americans Really Getting Fatter?

    The rate of obesity has climbed dramatically in the past 20 years: A third of adults are obese today, compared to 23% in the late 1980s. But this trend may have reached a plateau. According to a new study in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the obesity rate has not changed significantly in the past few years.
    That's no reason to become complacent, Kushner says. "The prevalence of obesity is leveling off, but it's leveling off at flood stage. So we need to turn that around."
    Is Weight Gain Contagious?

    How did we get to that "flood stage" of obesity? Maybe you should look around you.
    "Our work suggests that weight gain spreads in social networks," says Christakis, who has researched the spread of obesity.
    His findings, published in The New England Journal of Medicine in 2009, show that your odds of becoming obese rise by 57% if you have a friend who becomes obese and by 40% if your sibling becomes obese."We're social animals," Christakis says. "We're influenced by the choices and actions and appearance and behaviors of those around us."
    In short, our social contacts -- the people in our lives -- have a big influence on what we eat, how much we exercise, and how we judge our own appearance. This may help explain why obesity rates are not the same throughout the country. In fact, there are what might be called obesity hotspots.
    Of course America is getting fatter. And it's not the pudgy-I overate on holiday-I'm a bit bloated fat. It's the truly obese-I have to knock a wall down-weigh you on a tractor trailer scale-obese.

    The drinks at the movie theatre size-wise are-- I would swear-- come in the same size cup as the popcorn served when I was little. No, America...
    You don't need to "upsize" everything.


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    I could care less if people are shopping at the Kmart, with a bad wheel on a shopping cart, filled to well over capacity with Hostess Twinkies and Ding Dongs, in their undersized sweats with their belly peaking out fat. You know, the kind of fat where the pizza delivery guy has 4 or 5 extra large pies that he flings at the couple like they were show dogs jumping though hoops fat. You know, so fat their belt size is, wait for it...........the equator. Baba bump. I don't care one whit. In fact when I get old and infirm, which is coming much sooner than I care know, I will aspire to be so fat I can play Jabba the Hut in the Stars Wars movie and be pretty damn convincing.
    Thanks for the mental image! I was planning on a late lunch. Now? Not so much!

    That being said...

    I get equally annoyed by the health nut, granola eating, triathlon running, anti-drinking, anti-smoking crowd. Don't tell me what size soda I'm allowed to buy. I'd like to force feed them twinkles. Or spike the tofu with high fructose corn syrup.

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    Re: Is Fat the New Normal in America?

    There never was, is, or will be anything normal.

    Normal is a figment of our imaginations.
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    Re: Is Fat the New Normal in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Not true. Standing around basketball players, my 6'1 feels like short, not average. It happened today. It was strange to see the world from a short person's eyes.

    I agree fat is the new "normal".


    Yeah but I think the point WebMD is trying to make is that fat people generally hang around other fat people because that's their comfort zone, obviously.


    I know this is a real phenomena because at work it's obvious these people are insecure when a fit person, not just me but other fit people, start giving their views or talking about their lives. There's definitely tension in the room and then the fit person will just sorta abruptly stop because they sense that tension and realize "ohhh.. we can't talk about this truthfully without you all getting upset" and they stop. It's amusing but very real. Crowd-think is a big part of why people are fat I think. I do think it's that superficial on a ground level.

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    Re: Is Fat the New Normal in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I know this is a real phenomena because at work it's obvious these people are insecure when a fit person, not just me but other fit people, start giving their views or talking about their lives. There's definitely tension in the room and then the fit person will just sorta abruptly stop because they sense that tension and realize "ohhh.. we can't talk about this truthfully without you all getting upset" and they stop.
    I don't have that problem. Maybe it's you.

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    Re: Is Fat the New Normal in America?

    It wasn't normal to be thin, unless you were so poor you had to be, in pre-60s America. Twiggy changed all that. And it had nothing at all to do with nutrition.

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    I've been in all 3 facets of weight. I grew up scrawny as a twig. When I graduated high school I was 6'3" and 165. Not an ounce of fat or muscle to be seen, even though I ate like a race horse. When I graduated boot camp I was still only 170. Through the years in the Marines, I bulked up a little and filled out to about 195-205. After I got out and worked in insurance, I ballooned up to 265. No medical reason or excuse. just a desk job and a never ending stream of McDonalds, dougnuts, soda, deep fried food etc....but with a 6'3" frame, I "carried" it without appearing obese, even though I was and felt awful.

    When I went to school for physical therapist assistant program I was around 255 lbs. I was always a fast runner in the Marines, and I totally got my ass kicked on a 4 mile run by a 55 year old classmate. That moment "sobered" me up. Over the past 4 years I have been an active lifter and runner. I'm 215 now, wanting to be 205, but my body always seems to plateau at 212-215 no matter my diet or training regimen. But while I am not going to impress any powerlifters or bodybuilders with my bench press, nor will I beat the 145 lb guy in a race, I take pride in the fact that I run relatively fast for my size (usually place or sometimes win in my age group running) and can move appreciable amounts of weight in the gym. Really, I'm out to prove that you don't have to be 145 lbs to run fast, and you don't have to be 300lbs to be strong.

    Training for my first full marathon (I've run plenty of half marathons). Up to a 20 mile long run right now. And where I run, it's all hills.
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    Re: Is Fat the New Normal in America?

    There is one thing about fat, it is easy to maintain.

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