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    Re: To what standard should police be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    The police should be held to a higher standard due to the power dynamics as I stated earlier, especially due to the fact that they have the power to take the life of a person. For that alone even, I think they should be held to a higher standard.
    Horse is out of the barn on that, they are already held to a higher standard and have been for just about forever.

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    Re: To what standard should police be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    The police should be held to a higher standard due to the power dynamics as I stated earlier, especially due to the fact that they have the power to take the life of a person. For that alone even, I think they should be held to a higher standard.
    Your premise about "power" fails when looked at from a different view. Instead of a LE haveing the power to take a life. Subsitute an armed robber. The armed robber has the power to take your life. Should then any armed criminal be held to a higher standard? They can kill you.

    Bottom line. LE should be held to the rules and standards the department has, the State laws and Federal Laws.
    Much like a private citizen should be held to the laws and standards our country has established.

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    Re: To what standard should police be held?

    What was that quote by Votaire? "With great power comes great responsibility"
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    Re: To what standard should police be held?

    A higher standard than most people (the only option that was close was "than the rest of us", which isn't quite accurate).

    Police are being granted a certain degree of authority by society, as such, the price of that additional authority is additional standards. If they do not wish to abide by that higher standard, then **** em. They should not be police officers if they are afraid to be held to a higher standard. Pick a different job.

    One problem I have noticed is that a significant proportion people who become police officers do so because they want that extra power. The authority. It attracts many good, altruistic people that wish to serve and protect, but it also attracts a lot of ****ing entitled douchebags. The fact of the matter is that you can often tell that someone is a cop or wants to be a cop without ever seeing their badge. There's a certain entitled douchiness that some cops exude from themselves like an asshole exudes stink.

    These are the cops that give good cops a problem. These douchebags should never be given a badge, because they aren't fit to have one. The problem is, the people who should be arguing for this the most (the majority of cops who are not douchebags) tend to go toward the knee-jerk defense of one of "their own" rather than calling for an improvement to the standards by which their coworkers are hired.
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    Re: To what standard should police be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Actually, history shows that people with enough power will abuse it if they are not held accountable.

    “Abuse of power comes as no surprise” Jenny Holzer

    "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton, historian 1897

    "Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it" William Pitt the Elder, 1770
    Nice quotes, but they don't show anything different than what I said.

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    Re: To what standard should police be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Once again you fail to see the point. One last try: It is the degree of consequence that is relevant.

    I can't help but notice you ignored the long list of other occupations.

    Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely,

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    "Bye"? Is that the "I'm getting the last word here" thing? Okay.

    Here's my last word. I didn't "ignore" the long list of other occupations. I didn't feel like correcting you on them as I did on the pilot thing. But since you mentioned it, the Captain going down with the ship is maritime law, same as "women and children first". What does it have to do with cops?

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    Re: To what standard should police be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    We just had one suspended and probably will be fired for dating a drug addict. She let her dealer in while the officer was not home and the dealer stole some of his guns, including his service weapon. I am sure if he "executed" someone in cold blood in the middle of the day, he would be fired by days end.
    The standard procedure after a police shooting, no matter the circumstance, is to put the officer involved on paid leave for the six months* or more it takes for his/her co-workers to do an investigation. Then, after the investigation, a secret meeting or hearing is held by his/her superiors and 98% of the time the shooting is determined to be justified due to the circumstances and the officer can return to their normal duties.

    *In some cases they are reassigned to do office work.
    Last edited by Hard Truth; 08-21-14 at 09:32 PM.

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    Re: To what standard should police be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Nice quotes, but they don't show anything different than what I said.
    Wrong. You wrote "You will always find people who abuse power. MOST don't. ..."

    I am saying that most people will abuse their power if they have enough of it and are not effectively held accountable. Having power changes people.

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    Re: To what standard should police be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Wrong. You wrote "You will always find people who abuse power. MOST don't. ..."

    I am saying that most people will abuse their power if they have enough of it and are not effectively held accountable. Having power changes people.
    MOST people abuse their power? Kindly back that up please, and not with quotes from William Penn, but with stats.

    Judges have power. Show me something that proves that MOST of them abuse it.
    Cops have power. Show me something that proves that MOST of the 900,000+ cops in this country abuse their power.

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    Re: To what standard should police be held?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    MOST people abuse their power? Kindly back that up please, and not with quotes from William Penn, but with stats.

    Judges have power. Show me something that proves that MOST of them abuse it.
    Cops have power. Show me something that proves that MOST of the 900,000+ cops in this country abuse their power.
    Most people will abuse their power if they have enough of it and are not effectively held accountable. Judges and cops in the USA are held accountable to at least some extent. Dictators are not. Name a dictator that didn't abuse his power. When cops are not held accountable for their actions with sufficient effectiveness they will start abusing their power. It is human nature to do so. That is why certain police departments had so many bad cops at certain periods of time (ie. Philadelphia, LA, Oakland at various times*), it was caused by poor leadership and lack of accountability.

    *also in many unstable, impoverished and/or politically corrupt places throughout the world
    Last edited by Hard Truth; 08-21-14 at 09:33 PM.

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