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    Re: Who's Going to Buy/Read Paul Ryan's New Book?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Actually now that I realize the thread didn't say Rand Paul, I won't end up even bothering to read this or download it. If I want to hear rich people moan I'll turn on Fox News. Paul Ryan is a hack.
    Ryan is not rich. He lives in a nice middle class neighborhood in Janesville wisconsin. He actually relies on his congressional pay check.

    And he is no hack. I have a particular knowledge base on his vp candidacy and he practices what he preaches, and is an example to many of us that call ourselves family men

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    Re: Who's Going to Buy/Read Paul Ryan's New Book?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    No, obama won because the young voters turned out. Young voters dont vote on economic issues.
    Obama won because he got the most votes. To say that young people don't vote on economic issues is unbelievably condescending not to mention flat-out wrong.

    NEW ROCK THE VOTE POLL: YOUNG VOTERS’ ELECTION ENERGY INTENSIFIES, SPURRED BY ECONOMIC CONCERNS AND DESIRE FOR CHANGE

    18-29 YEAR OLD VOTERS WOULD CHOOSE BARACK OBAMA OVER JOHN MCCAIN IF THE ELECTION WERE HELD TODAY


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    Rock the Vote’s latest poll of 18-29 year olds shows young voters are increasingly engaged in the upcoming presidential election, driven by concerns over the faltering economy and a sense that our country needs a new direction. Concern over the economy, while a top issue for young people since 2006, has intensified and is now the number one issue this election for nearly half (41%) of 18-29 year olds.
    New Rock the Vote Poll: Young Voters

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    Re: Who's Going to Buy/Read Paul Ryan's New Book?

    I've heard enough of his rambling to know what he's about. He's an Ayn Rand nut, a warmonger, a theocrat, and an establishment shill. Buying his book would only give him more money to push his insane economic/social/civil ideas.

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    Re: Who's Going to Buy/Read Paul Ryan's New Book?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Paul Ryan is mighty close to the top of my don't like list.
    apparently you don't know why, if you think he's the Ayn Randian in the Congress.

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    Re: Who's Going to Buy/Read Paul Ryan's New Book?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    apparently you don't know why, if you think he's the Ayn Randian in the Congress.
    I think it's safe to say (at least, by his own account) that he was influenced by her governmental and fiscal views, but rejected her philosophy when it came to its relationship with theology.
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    Re: Who's Going to Buy/Read Paul Ryan's New Book?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ....if you think he's the Ayn Randian in the Congress.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Who's Going to Buy/Read Paul Ryan's New Book?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I've heard enough of his rambling to know what he's about. He's an Ayn Rand nut, a warmonger, a theocrat, and an establishment shill.
    All of which show a complex set of paradoxes with being associated with reading Ayn Rand literature, if you think about it. Rand would have obviously liked herself and her views, but would not be comfortable with a hawkish foreign policy, a member of the public service establishment, or influenced by Christian theology.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Who's Going to Buy/Read Paul Ryan's New Book?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    When his dad died, his family depended on these programs to make it. I'd say the caricature that he's the kind of person who looks down on (as he puts it) the majority of Americans who at one point or another in their lives need some form of assistance is very likely to be false. People tend not to denigrate their own history.
    Well....LOGICALLY...they wouldn't....but then again we are talking about the Flim-flam man after all..




    "Right now about 60 percent of the American people get more benefits in dollar value from the federal government than they pay back in taxes," Ryan said. "So we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in America and that will be tough to come back from that. They'll be dependent on the government for their livelihoods [rather] than themselves."


    "...(D)o we go down the path the president is proposing -- a social welfare state, a cradle-to-the-grave society where we have more takers than makers."

    Paul Ayn Ryan, ex-taker.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Who's Going to Buy/Read Paul Ryan's New Book?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I've heard enough of his rambling to know what he's about. He's an Ayn Rand nut, a warmonger, a theocrat, and an establishment shill. Buying his book would only give him more money to push his insane economic/social/civil ideas.
    Apparently this is the Left has chosen to tell it's followers in order to keep them from listening or (horribly) potentially listening for themselves.

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    Re: Who's Going to Buy/Read Paul Ryan's New Book?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Well....LOGICALLY...they wouldn't....but then again we are talking about the Flim-flam man after all..

    "Right now about 60 percent of the American people get more benefits in dollar value from the federal government than they pay back in taxes," Ryan said. "So we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in America and that will be tough to come back from that. They'll be dependent on the government for their livelihoods [rather] than themselves."


    "...(D)o we go down the path the president is proposing -- a social welfare state, a cradle-to-the-grave society where we have more takers than makers."

    Paul Ayn Ryan, ex-taker.
    Paul Ryan Repudiates ‘Makers and Takers’ Language

    In a Wall Street Journal op-ed published last Friday, Representative Paul Ryan tells the story of attending a fair in 2012 in his hometown, Janesville, Wis. A man walked up to him.

    “Hey, Paul,” he said, “I just need a minute. I’m from the Democrats’ tent, and I just wanted to come over here and give you a piece of my mind.”

    He got up close and asked, “Who, exactly, are the takers?”

    Mr. Ryan reflected on this incident over time, and wrote this in Friday’s WSJ:

    Even so, that day at the fair was the first time I really heard the way the phrase sounded. Later, I thought about that guy from the Democrats’ tent, and eventually I realized: He’s right.

    Mr. Ryan continues:

    Who was a taker? My mom, who is on Medicare? Me at 18 years old, using the Social Security survivor’s benefits we got after my father’s death to go to college? My buddy who had been unemployed and used job-training benefits to get back on his feet?

    The phrase gave insult where none was intended. People struggling and striving to get ahead—that’s what our country is all about. On that journey, they’re not “takers”; they’re trying to make something of themselves. We shouldn’t disparage that.

    Of course, the phrase wasn’t just insensitive; it was also ineffective. The problem I was trying to describe wasn’t about our people; it’s a philosophy of government that erodes the American Idea.

    Feel free to check out the actual policy proposals.

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