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    Re: Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?


    I say no.Government is the servant of the people not the boss of the people. If a few bad apples are rioting and looting then get the police to arrest those individuals. Government has absolutely no business telling the people when they can and can't leave their homes.
    When a mass of adults are acting like children and not like mature adults who respect the law, the safety of others, etc - then yes.

    Not only can they - but they should.

    The negative here is that adults act like imbeciles. The negative here isn't that the government had no choice but to act in such a way. Maybe you'd think differently if it impacted your life more directly.
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    Re: Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?

    Yes, anything that keeps the thugs off the streets and away from my precious bikini store.


    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Why? Is a five hour (midnight to 5AM) no looting period really that much of a help to your business? When the local gov't/police decide that to protect the folks and to preserve order requires keeping everyone locked down then they gain too much power.

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    Re: Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Yes, anything that keeps the thugs off the streets and away from my precious bikini store.
    It keeps everyone out of all the stores (and every other business) for the duration of the curfew yet allows the thugs to do their thing the rest of the day/night. Why not try the novel approach of stopping (using deadly force if required) the thugs/looters and leaving all others free to go about their business/pleasure activities?
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    Re: Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?

    Apparently its because trying to stop them would escalate the looting, be logistically impossible or mean too much risk for LEO. In LA, for example, a more effective way would be to impose a curfew. During those riots no one was going about their business pleasure activities - day or night.


    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It keeps everyone out of all the stores (and every other business) for the duration of the curfew yet allows the thugs to do their thing the rest of the day/night. Why not try the novel approach of stopping (using deadly force if required) the thugs/looters and leaving all others free to go about their business/pleasure activities?

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    Re: Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Because the word animal wasn't used. It was the tone deaf use of the word ape.
    Last I checked an ape was an animal... but just for you though...

    Is there something wrong with labelling those acting uncivilized and wantonly destroying their society as an ape?
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    Re: Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Last I checked an ape was an animal... but just for you though...

    Is there something wrong with labelling those acting uncivilized and wantonly destroying their society as an ape?
    Why not try an experiment? Go to two groups of people rioting and acting civilized. One a mostly white group and another a mostly black group. See which one gets more mad at your use of the term.

    If you can understand that, then no further explanation is needed. If you can't understand that, then no further explanation by me will aid you in doing so.

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    Re: Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Why not try an experiment? Go to two groups of people rioting and acting civilized. One a mostly white group and another a mostly black group. See which one gets more mad at your use of the term.

    If you can understand that, then no further explanation is needed. If you can't understand that, then no further explanation by me will aid you in doing so.
    That is a fallacious appeal to emotion argument. I would also add that calling a group of black people an animal would be more upsetting than labelling a white group that... but that does not make the analogy wrong. A groups reaction does not dictate its merits. If you can't understand that then I am not sure I can help you further...
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    Re: Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is a fallacious appeal to emotion argument. I would also add that calling a group of black people an animal would be more upsetting than labelling a white group that... but that does not make the analogy wrong. A groups reaction does not dictate its merits. If you can't understand that then I am not sure I can help you further...
    You have missed the point entirely. Words are entirely about emotion, particularly dealing with the emotions of those who are called those words. Your clinical view that an ape is an animal continues to miss my point. Yes an ape is an animal, so are human beings. But I reacted to Lizzie's use of the word ape. I've never seen or heard of an ape acting like these rioters, but I'm honest enough to acknowledge that there is a racial connotation to the word that could be applied.

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    Re: Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    You have missed the point entirely. Words are entirely about emotion, particularly dealing with the emotions of those who are called those words. Your clinical view that an ape is an animal continues to miss my point. Yes an ape is an animal, so are human beings. But I reacted to Lizzie's use of the word ape. I've never seen or heard of an ape acting like these rioters, but I'm honest enough to acknowledge that there is a racial connotation to the word that could be applied.

    As for needing your help, I'll just refer you to your own sig.
    No. You are trying to make a point where there is none. Words are also not entirely about emotion. Words are words and how people take them is where emotion is invoked. The point is not how black people will take the term it is that the term represents people acting in an uncivilized manner because apes are uncivilized. That is it. Reading more into it is being defensive. The term itself applies to all rioters and looters.

    I can say that a guy is acting like an ape and he can get all made about it or logically equate that term to acting uncivilized and go, hmmm... you are correct.

    I think that this is all summed up by my signature and your seemingly utter fail as to why it is attached.
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    Re: Should government be able to impose a curfew on adults?

    In Ceridian circumstances yes with some limits to address concern. In a situation like Ferguson, they sold be able to approach and identity any person. The problem there isn't with the residents sdo much but the vultures that have come to steal and destroy everything they can. Many of them aren't residents of Ferguson. If they can't protect and serve why have police at all.
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