View Poll Results: Do you believe in global warming, and if so, what is causing it.

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  • I believe in global warming, and that it is caused by man.

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  • I believe in global warming, but I don't think humankind has anything to do with it.

    7 12.28%
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
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    10 year increments over 100,000 years is asking a bit much don't you think? That image should suffice.
    Dont be silly. He's asking for impossibly precise data because he knows it doesnt exist.

    Its like a creationist saying that theyve never found a transistional fossil, and to prove it they point to more and more precise gaps in the fossil record to 'disprove' proof of evolution.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Dont be silly. He's asking for impossibly precise data because he knows it doesnt exist.

    Its like a creationist saying that theyve never found a transistional fossil, and to prove it they point to more and more precise gaps in the fossil record to 'disprove' proof of evolution.
    I am sure he is a creationist as well..
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I am sure he is a creationist as well..
    Creationists and global warming deniers, like pizza and beer.

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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Actually, if we go by NASA's GISS data (I know you love to pretend its a single guy you can then demonize), we have warmed .8 degrees in about 40 years. And the direct response to CO2 is only a fraction of the actual warming that will result....which has pretty much been validated by the fact that IT HAS WARMED THAT MUCH IN THE PAST 40 YEARS.



    Thats just the air, of course. Most of that heat is being absorbed by the oceans, which will cause issues with ocean warming, climate changes, higher sea levels from thermal expansion, and massive disruption of an already stressed ecosystem.

    So given that your numbers are off at the intial baseline, you're scratchy calculations are inherently dismissed by actual NON-AMATEUR scientists, who understand that the warming phenomenon by greenhouse gases is real, a problem, and potentially one that we have underestimated.
    You are using a graph, the actual data is a table,
    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt
    If you look at the J-D column 1880 is -.21 C, 2013 is .60 C, delta temp .81C, delta time 133 years.
    Your graph shows the entire decade past year 2000 above .60C, the GISS table
    only 4 years in that time above .60 C, therefore your graph reflects some other data set
    than the GISS GLOBAL Land-Ocean Temperature Index.

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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Creationists and global warming deniers, like pizza and beer.
    Except most creationists would never dream of drinking a beer with their pizza.
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    Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    You are using a graph, the actual data is a table,
    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt
    If you look at the J-D column 1880 is -.21 C, 2013 is .60 C, delta temp .81C, delta time 133 years.
    Your graph shows the entire decade past year 2000 above .60C, the GISS table
    only 4 years in that time above .60 C, therefore your graph reflects some other data set
    than the GISS GLOBAL Land-Ocean Temperature Index.
    That graph was pulled directly off the GISS website. And its not the land-ocean temperature index.
    And the most appropriate measure for looking at variable data over the long term is a moving average.


    Why would you try to compare the CO2 forcing in air with land/ocean temperature index??? Dont you know that water absorbs heat energy and does not warm as fast as air? Well, real scientists do understand that. Its called heat capacity. Look it up. I'd recommend a basic chemistry textbook - junior high level would be fine.

    Why dont you leave the science to the big boys and try to absorb what they are telling you without silly critiques?
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Could you back that claim up with some facts? Let's start with the percentage of the total greenhouse effect caused by anthropogenic greenhouse gases (and please include H2O in the numbers so that we can see the whole picture).
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Creationists and global warming deniers, like pizza and beer.
    There are global warming deniers and then there are global warming realists that deny that global warming is the doom that most make it out to be AND that it is part of the natural processes of climate change.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    There are global warming deniers and then there are global warming realists that deny that global warming is the doom that most make it out to be AND that it is part of the natural processes of climate change.
    And I'll bet none of those "realists" are scientists or use actual scientists for their sources.

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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And I'll bet none of those "realists" are scientists or use actual scientists for their sources.
    You think that global warming is the doom that most make it out to be? Really?
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