View Poll Results: Do you believe in global warming, and if so, what is causing it.

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  • I believe in global warming, and that it is caused by man.

    28 49.12%
  • I believe in global warming, but I don't think humankind has anything to do with it.

    7 12.28%
  • I don't believe in global warming.

    5 8.77%
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't agree with everything posted here (mostly because I haven't slept - been working all night and I'm grumpy) but I do thank you for this post. It's the first attempt by a right winger other than Cephus to at a minimum consider that humans may be contributing to GW.
    What do you disagree with? I am pulling the numbers from PRO AGW sites.
    Get some rest and look it over, I will be interested is an actual critique.

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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    That global warming, its causes, and its effects are considered subject to belief is a huge problem to start with. The same as evolution, vaccines, or any other part of science. It's not up to a vote. It's just the facts.
    This is my problem with the wording as well. When you use the word "belief" it seems to imply that my uneducated opinions on the topic have any relevance on whether global warming is happening or not.

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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Global Warming isn't something you believe, it's a reality you choose whether or not to recognize.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    If we go by Hanson's GISS data, we have warmed .8 C in the last 133 years.
    The IPCC's direct response for CO2 number is 1.2 C for a doubling of CO2,
    which means our current level of CO2 should produce .6 C of warming.
    Actually, if we go by NASA's GISS data (I know you love to pretend its a single guy you can then demonize), we have warmed .8 degrees in about 40 years. And the direct response to CO2 is only a fraction of the actual warming that will result....which has pretty much been validated by the fact that IT HAS WARMED THAT MUCH IN THE PAST 40 YEARS.



    Thats just the air, of course. Most of that heat is being absorbed by the oceans, which will cause issues with ocean warming, climate changes, higher sea levels from thermal expansion, and massive disruption of an already stressed ecosystem.

    So given that your numbers are off at the intial baseline, you're scratchy calculations are inherently dismissed by actual NON-AMATEUR scientists, who understand that the warming phenomenon by greenhouse gases is real, a problem, and potentially one that we have underestimated.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    You really are that dense. You have shown some "opinions" and "when to grow crops" data. As I said earlier you are really struggling, you are all over the place and make no sense at all.
    Actually, his posts are perfectly coherent. And the evidence for man's impact on climate change is real.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    Weather has only been recorded for a little over 100 years. The Earth is 4.5 BILLION years old. Global warming is FOLKLORE. Who is to blame for the second ice age?
    This post reminds me of this:

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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Global Warming is a natural part of Climate Change.
    Global Warming is a scare term used by politicians...
    Climate change is real and humans are contributing to CO2 emissions that are Greenhouse Gases.
    It is India and China that are the major, and I mean major, contributors of Greenhouse Gases......

    **** happens...
    Could you back that claim up with some facts? Let's start with the percentage of the total greenhouse effect caused by anthropogenic greenhouse gases (and please include H2O in the numbers so that we can see the whole picture).
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    At the accelerated rate that we are seeing now?
    Could you back that with some facts?? Lets say show us the rate of change in 10 year increments for the last 100,000 years so we have something at least vaguely close to a representative sample.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    Weather has only been recorded for a little over 100 years. The Earth is 4.5 BILLION years old. Global warming is FOLKLORE. Who is to blame for the second ice age?
    Just because its only been recorded for a little over 100 years does not mean there is no evidence to show what the climate was like millions of years ago. We have scientists drilling out ice cores in Antarctica that show millions of years worth of climate data. The Co2 levels are increasing at a faster rate than at any other time excluding massive eruptions. Why is this? because we are burning massive amounts of fossil fuels.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?-atmospheric_co2_ch4_degrees_centigrade_over_time_by_reg_morrison-jpg

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Could you back that with some facts?? Lets say show us the rate of change in 10 year increments for the last 100,000 years so we have something at least vaguely close to a representative sample.
    10 year increments over 100,000 years is asking a bit much don't you think? That image should suffice.
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