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  • I believe in global warming, and that it is caused by man.

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  • I believe in global warming, but I don't think humankind has anything to do with it.

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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I believe global warming and cooling are something that occurs naturally and on it's own and has been going on for billions of years.
    Which is actually demonstrable, we can trace cycles of global warming and cooling going back millions of years through ice records and the like. In fact, we know that the sun, up until about 15 years ago, was going through a warming period and, as that subsided, the kind of global effects we'd been seeing also largely subsided. Glacial ice in the past 2 years is at record growth. Certainly, man has had some detrimental effects on the planet, there's no questioning that, but the ridiculous liberal idea that we're completely and totally to blame and that we all have to live in caves and drive Priuses is laughable at best. Should we be good stewards of our planet? Absolutely and without question. Should we run around like chickens with our heads cut off? Hell no. Besides, the liberals don't want us to use the only available "clean" energy source that we have, nuclear. It's just more absurd liberal self-loathing nonsense.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    Weather has only been recorded for a little over 100 years. The Earth is 4.5 BILLION years old. Global warming is FOLKLORE. Who is to blame for the second ice age?
    Seriously? Geez, people have been WRITING DOWN the weather a lot longer than that.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    Weather has only been recorded for a little over 100 years. The Earth is 4.5 BILLION years old. Global warming is FOLKLORE. Who is to blame for the second ice age?
    This is why I find it hard to believe the man made global warming fairy tale side. Trying to claim that man made climate change is going on just by looking at a hundred years or so of climate out of the billions of years of climate is like trying to claim someone put a few grains of sand on a beach or that someone put a few drops of water in a bucket that has been sitting out in the rain.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Seriously? Geez, people have been WRITING DOWN the weather a lot longer than that.
    So someone can tell you the high and low temperature, humidity and whether or not you got any rain in Redland's California on August 19 a couple hundred years ago?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So someone can tell you the high and low temperature, humidity and whether or not you got any rain in Redland's California on August 19 a couple hundred years ago?
    Yes, they can actually make a rough estimation. Although the date you've given is too exact, they would be speaking of 10's or 100's of thousands of years ago. Geologists can trace many events that have occured in the past. Of course within reason and theories and hypotheses can change when new information is uncovered.

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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    Weather has only been recorded for a little over 100 years. The Earth is 4.5 BILLION years old. Global warming is FOLKLORE. Who is to blame for the second ice age?
    Gravity has only been known about for a little over 200 years. The Earth is 4.5 BILLION years old. Gravity is FOLKLORE. Who is to blame for floating in water?
    That is how much sense your post makes. Scientific knowledge is not measured as correct/incorrect because of how long of a period we've known about a particular occurrence. We've had computers for less than 80 years and yet, it's easier for scientists to explain how a computer works than for archeologists to explain how the pyramids were built. The funny thing is that the pyramids were around for 3000 years. What that says is that whether we've recorded weather for 100 years or even 4000 years is irrelevant. We know more about it today than we've ever known about it. Actually, science has become so advanced at establishing weather patterns/conditions that it can tell us what the weather is like on other planets. We can tell what the temperature is like on those planets on any given day. We can tell it'll never rain on Mars. We can even say just how thick the ice will be on other planets and we've never even been past the moon. So yeah, how long we've known about a particular event/phenomenon is pretty much irrelevant in today's world and has been for a while. Hell, we've only known about DNA for 50-60 years and we've already cloned animals. So if that doesn't tell you how flawed your argument is, nothing does.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    As far as the thread goes, I don't believe in global warming. Believing is something people who don't care about facts do. I've read the documents made by scientists all over the world. Examined the facts provided and have aligned myself with the group of people who acknowledge that global warming is a fact. As far as whether man is causing it or not, you have to take a look around you and consider whether a few hundred million CO2 producing chimneys wouldn't in any way harm the environment.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    To get back to the question, I do believe Climate Change is caused by natural events as well as human CO2 emission. I also believe that it happens at an accelerating speed, for example: when ice caps melt they uncover large black surfaces of water which in turn absorb more energy from the sun, heating up the ocean. Also, A lot of methane is released from these caps which also is also a green house gas, exacerbating the problem in it's turn.

    I think that if these quick changes have occured in the past, we would be able to find traces of these changes. Fast changes in climate means that many animals will go extinct, as they have to adept to changes in decades instead of the centuries it naturally takes. The dinosaurs would be a good example, although the cause was different, the outcome is comparable.
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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

    We, humanity, are the reason global warming is happening at the current scale and we will be among its victims.

    The main offenders are China and India though the west isn't that far behind, we are at comparable levels to them ,but the difference is, we're reducing or making effort to have this addressed while the other 2 nations aren't.

    And yes, I know that China's solar industry is booming, but it's for show.

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    Re: Do you believe in global warming, and If so, what is causing it?

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    As a proponent of the Gaia hypothesis, I believe global warming is happening but is a mix of a naturally occurring event which is exacerbated by the pollution humankind is creating.

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