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    13 11.82%
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    Re: Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Yes, you gave extreme praise to an article with enormous gaps in the sort of information it presented by selecting only that which acted to confirm a pre-existing narritive.
    Extreme praise would be "glory, glory Hallelujah" and I have no idea what you're saying short of an hollow analysis? Speak plainly.
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    Re: Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Extreme praise would be "glory, glory Hallelujah" and I have no idea what you're saying short of an hollow analysis? Speak plainly.

    You selected a narrative that is very limited and operates from assumptions while proceeding to ignore anything that did not align with these assumptions.


    If this incident is about those things, it is also about thug culture, racialist double standards, white guilt, perpetual victim status, identity politics, race baiting and any of a number of themes that do not fit with your very narrow agenda here.
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    Re: Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You selected a narrative that is very limited and operates from assumptions while proceeding to ignore anything that did not align with these assumptions.


    If this incident is about those things, it is also about thug culture, racialist double standards, white guilt, perpetual victim status, identity politics, race baiting and any of a number of themes that do not fit with your very narrow agenda here.
    I don't say all those other factors aren't relevant just not completely dominant. I'm not sure there's much more that can literally be done, except have a national dialog about how the class issue can be addressed. I don't think it's about race, as much as about the growing gap between haves and have nots.
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    Re: Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Lew is a non entity in Missouri. He was before the incident. He will be after the incident. He will have lots of company.
    So your refusal to recognize the man by his name is just an example of you being a jerk? Got it.
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    Re: Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    How do you suggest the community realize that and get past it?
    First... by waiting to see what the results of the investigation are. Protesting, let alone rioting, over hearsay is idiotic no matter what the emotions are.
    Second... by calm and respectable community leaders (not Sharpton and race baiters) coming in and leading the people.
    Third... I don't know... repeat one and two until there is guilt or innocence.
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    Re: Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    So your refusal to recognize the man by his name is just an example of you being a jerk? Got it.
    Geeeeeeezus...it takes you a while...



    Relevant factor ignored. Got it. You can focus on my calling Lew by his given name all the while ignoring the FACT and UNDENIABLE reality that he is no different than any of the other race baiting charlatans that ignore the day to day violence, the kids gunned down in the streets by gang members, the decay, and complete ****holes that are such a large number of black communities and only offer the faintest pretense of outrage when tragedy occurs.

    Meanwhile...as people continue to fret about poor Mike Brown...approx 346 young people have been killed in black neighborhoods across the country in acts committed by black people. 46,032 violent crimes have been perpetrated on black people in communities across the country BY black people. And that is JUST August. SO FAR.

    So yeah...you will have to pardon me if I give less than half a **** about what he calls himself.

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    Re: Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    He was shot twice in the head, who says they were both fatal? The top of head shot was considered deadly, but the other one could've been in a different order.





    Yes there are.

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    Nobody said they were both fatal. How is that relevant to my post?
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    Re: Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    Well if he shot him six times when he was down you might have a point. We don't know that, and it seems unreasonable at this point.
    If he was shot 6 times standing up it would be no better. If a police officer is trying to apprehend someone and force like that is required, a few shots to the legs will do the trick. You have to at least admit that shooting someone so many times is generally not an acceptable thing for a police officer to do.
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    Re: Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Both citizens and cops are taught to shoot until the threat stops. Doesnt matter how many it takes, but it should end when the threat ends.

    I have no idea what the threat was in the Brown shooting yet.
    Where were you taught that? Where were cops taught that? Have any evidence? BS. That is not what people are taught at all, unless they are in a gang.
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    Re: Ferguson

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If the suspect continues to charge, the officer will continue to shoot.

    Most of the shots were not life threatening and with adrenalin pumping in the suspect, it is viable that he kept coming.
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    If a 350 pound man is coming after you, repeatedly, charging towards you even after you've yelled "Freeze" or "Stop or I will shoot," then again - what is he supposed to do? Tell me what you expect that cop to do if this guy is charging him, refusing to stop.
    The autopsy did not determine that the officer was being charged. And as the doctor performing it noted:

    "The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body."

    "“In my capacity as the forensic examiner for the New York State Police, I would say, ‘You’re not supposed to shoot so many times,’ ” said Dr. Baden"

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us...imes.html?_r=0
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