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    Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Mike Brown was unarmed, walking down the street, and a cop killed him.

    There's more to the story and we don't have all the details yet but that simple assessment is what seems to be in play right now and it has caused riots, looting, destruction of property, curfews and at least one more shooting. This all begs the question.....if you are a cop working in a predominantly black neighborhood what are you going to do if you are in a situation where you may have to use force against a black suspect? If it's not a life or death situation are you just going to walk away?

    In the Mike Brown scenario Officer Wilson could have just blown the whole thing off. Yeah, maybe he just made contact with the kid that robbed the liquor store but is it really worth his career to take action and risk being thrust into the public spotlight? If he says, "Come here, please. I need to ask you a few questions" and the kid tells him to **** off should he just walk away?

    If a cop has his own interests in mind he would certainly, in light of the circumstances in Ferguson, have to think twice before having any kind of physical contact with a confrontational black suspect.

    That might be a good thing for community relations between police and blacks. Certainly less confrontation would be welcome....wouldn't it?

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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    I don't think it's going to make a big impact, at least not in the long run.

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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    I personally believe that if people were more scared of police using a firearm, they would not feel so brave to confront them. The problem is, we seem to be making it more acceptable to confront an officer in a threatening manner or with disrespect. Then we are surprised when an officer turns into a human for 15 seconds and makes a fatal mistake. I think the expectations we are setting for officers are unrealistic. If you are constantly treated like garbage by people all day while trying to do your job, the probability to make a judgement error based on all that pent up emotion from the negative confrontations inceases. This is why incidents between officers and civilians are increasing. It's also interesting that many of the criminals who cry foul when an officer uses a little bit of physical force would not think twice to punch you in the mouth if you looked at them the wrong way. Its simply unrealistic to expect people to not act on emotion when you press their buttons.
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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    .....if you are a cop working in a predominantly black neighborhood what are you going to do if you are in a situation where you may have to use force against a black suspect? If it's not a life or death situation are you just going to walk away?

    In the Mike Brown scenario Officer Wilson could have just blown the whole thing off. Yeah, maybe he just made contact with the kid that robbed the liquor store but is it really worth his career to take action and risk being thrust into the public spotlight? If he says, "Come here, please. I need to ask you a few questions" and the kid tells him to **** off should he just walk away?

    If a cop has his own interests in mind he would certainly, in light of the circumstances in Ferguson, have to think twice before having any kind of physical contact with a confrontational black suspect.

    That might be a good thing for community relations between police and blacks. Certainly less confrontation would be welcome....wouldn't it?
    If I were a cop, I don't know what I'd do, but I would tempted to walk away and say **** you to the community. In urban areas with significant crime rates, it's difficult enough to get cops to work in the first place. I'm sure incidents like this just make it worse. In Dallas, it's hard to find cops who will stay- it's a ****hole to work in, and it's mild as compared to other urban areas around the nation. I can't imagine doing that job in areas where gangs roam the streets, and punks would just as soon shoot you as to look at you.
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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    ...Or maybe it's because a certain segment of society doesn't know how to navigate social encounters without acting violently. That is the crux of the issue and it's something nobody wants to talk about.

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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Mike Brown was unarmed, walking down the street, and a cop killed him.

    There's more to the story and we don't have all the details yet but that simple assessment is what seems to be in play right now and it has caused riots, looting, destruction of property, curfews and at least one more shooting. This all begs the question.....if you are a cop working in a predominantly black neighborhood what are you going to do if you are in a situation where you may have to use force against a black suspect? If it's not a life or death situation are you just going to walk away?

    In the Mike Brown scenario Officer Wilson could have just blown the whole thing off. Yeah, maybe he just made contact with the kid that robbed the liquor store but is it really worth his career to take action and risk being thrust into the public spotlight? If he says, "Come here, please. I need to ask you a few questions" and the kid tells him to **** off should he just walk away?

    If a cop has his own interests in mind he would certainly, in light of the circumstances in Ferguson, have to think twice before having any kind of physical contact with a confrontational black suspect.

    That might be a good thing for community relations between police and blacks. Certainly less confrontation would be welcome....wouldn't it?
    I voted "No" but I think I'm wrong. I think it will have a chilling effect on white officers trying to do their jobs in black neighborhoods. Personally? I think they should have certain neighborhoods patrolled by black officers. We'd have a lot fewer problems. Cities could make it work by selling the public on the department's desire to be "racially sensitive" or some-such crap like that.

    What white cop wouldn't think twice in certain confrontations with blacks in black neighborhoods? Or white neighborhoods, for that matter? Who'd life wouldn't flash before their eyes? Horrible publicity. Personal threats to himself and his family. Being hounded by the media. Being burned in effigy in the middle of the street. Who would want to risk that?

    I can picture a lot of cops saying simply, "Today's your lucky day. GTF outa' here."
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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I voted "No" but I think I'm wrong. I think it will have a chilling effect on white officers trying to do their jobs in black neighborhoods. Personally? I think they should have certain neighborhoods patrolled by black officers. We'd have a lot fewer problems. Cities could make it work by selling the public on the department's desire to be "racially sensitive" or some-such crap like that.

    What white cop wouldn't think twice in certain confrontations with blacks in black neighborhoods? Or white neighborhoods, for that matter? Who'd life wouldn't flash before their eyes? Horrible publicity. Personal threats to himself and his family. Being hounded by the media. Being burned in effigy in the middle of the street. Who would want to risk that?

    I can picture a lot of cops saying simply, "Today's your lucky day. GTF outa' here."
    I'm not so sure that segregated departments are really the answer. That's more like slapping a bandaid on a severed artery. A viable community requires that people of all races, faiths, etc. work together for the good of that community.

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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Mike Brown was unarmed, walking down the street, and a cop killed him.

    There's more to the story and we don't have all the details yet but that simple assessment is what seems to be in play right now and it has caused riots, looting, destruction of property, curfews and at least one more shooting. This all begs the question.....if you are a cop working in a predominantly black neighborhood what are you going to do if you are in a situation where you may have to use force against a black suspect? If it's not a life or death situation are you just going to walk away?

    In the Mike Brown scenario Officer Wilson could have just blown the whole thing off. Yeah, maybe he just made contact with the kid that robbed the liquor store but is it really worth his career to take action and risk being thrust into the public spotlight? If he says, "Come here, please. I need to ask you a few questions" and the kid tells him to **** off should he just walk away?

    If a cop has his own interests in mind he would certainly, in light of the circumstances in Ferguson, have to think twice before having any kind of physical contact with a confrontational black suspect.

    That might be a good thing for community relations between police and blacks. Certainly less confrontation would be welcome....wouldn't it?
    I voted no because I think the question underestimates the institutional arrogance that permeates police forces these days. It would be a welcome surprise if it actually did have a chilling effect because it would imply that serious investigations were being conducted and penalties actually levied, with officers taking it seriously for once.

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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'm not so sure that segregated departments are really the answer. That's more like slapping a bandaid on a severed artery. A viable community requires that people of all races, faiths, etc. work together for the good of that community.
    Yeah, well, we've tried that.
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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I voted no because I think the question underestimates the institutional arrogance that permeates police forces these days. It would be a welcome surprise if it actually did have a chilling effect because it would imply that serious investigations were being conducted and penalties actually levied, with officers taking it seriously for once.
    While I certainly believe that there are occasional of police overreaction I also believe that those cases are both rare and handled pretty well when encountered. Contrary to popular belief cops generally DO NOT just get a free pass when they screw up.

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