View Poll Results: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police work in black neighborhoods?

Voters
32. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    11 34.38%
  • No

    20 62.50%
  • I was abducted by aliens. Let me tell you about it!

    1 3.13%
Page 4 of 15 FirstFirst ... 2345614 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 144

Thread: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

  1. #31
    Sage
    mike2810's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    arizona
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    15,032

    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    The actions of the police in Ferguson going on right now are absolutely unacceptable. I am revolted, offended, and ashamed that something like this is allowed to happen in the United States. These poor people in Missouri. What is going on there reminds me of a war zone in the Middle East. This is one of the largest violations of the 1st amendment I remember in recent times. Absolutely unacceptable.
    Yes, the rioting and looting and damaging property is revolting. This type of reaction to a shooting is unacceptable.

    In Phoenix not to long ago a police officer was shot dead after stopping the person for a traffic violation. Jury finds man guilty in Phoenix police officer shooting | azfamily.com Phoenix

    another LE shote making a traffic stop.
    Police officer shot, killed during Scottsdale traffic stop | azfamily.com Phoenix

    Yes, sometimes LE officers step over their authority, make bad decisions and shoot when they not need to.

    Yet, where is the outcry when LE are gunned down.

    Like I said, the public reaction in Ferguson is unacceptable.

  2. #32
    Guru
    Lakryte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    California
    Last Seen
    06-02-17 @ 01:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    2,982

    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    You do realize, of course, that if these "poor people of Missouri" would go their asses home, this wouldn't be happening. If they go home, the cops go home. It's not rocket science. They are rioting. They are looting. They are shooting towards the police cars.

    What do you want the police to do, write them a strongly worded letter?
    SOME are rioting. MOST are protesting peacefully. The cops don't care and attack everyone. That is not acceptable. Period.
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."
    "When we live authentically we create an opportunity for others to walk out of their dark prisons of pretend into freedom."

  3. #33
    Guru
    Lakryte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    California
    Last Seen
    06-02-17 @ 01:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    2,982

    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Yes, the rioting and looting and damaging property is revolting. This type of reaction to a shooting is unacceptable.

    In Phoenix not to long ago a police officer was shot dead after stopping the person for a traffic violation. Jury finds man guilty in Phoenix police officer shooting | azfamily.com Phoenix

    another LE shote making a traffic stop.
    Police officer shot, killed during Scottsdale traffic stop | azfamily.com Phoenix

    Yes, sometimes LE officers step over their authority, make bad decisions and shoot when they not need to.

    Yet, where is the outcry when LE are gunned down.

    Like I said, the public reaction in Ferguson is unacceptable.
    Looting is equally unacceptable. That in no way excuses the atrocious and disgusting actions of the police.
    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."
    "When we live authentically we create an opportunity for others to walk out of their dark prisons of pretend into freedom."

  4. #34
    Sage
    Excon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Last Seen
    10-14-17 @ 01:26 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,997

    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Looting is equally unacceptable. That in no way excuses the atrocious and disgusting actions of the police.
    If the police action is in response to, and in an attempt to prevent such looting and damage, then yes, their use of teargas and rubber bullets are acceptable.
    “The law is reason, free from passion.”
    Aristotle
    (≚ᄌ≚)

  5. #35
    Sage
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:30 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,975

    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Mike Brown was unarmed, walking down the street, and a cop killed him.

    There's more to the story and we don't have all the details yet but that simple assessment is what seems to be in play right now and it has caused riots, looting, destruction of property, curfews and at least one more shooting. This all begs the question.....if you are a cop working in a predominantly black neighborhood what are you going to do if you are in a situation where you may have to use force against a black suspect? If it's not a life or death situation are you just going to walk away?

    In the Mike Brown scenario Officer Wilson could have just blown the whole thing off. Yeah, maybe he just made contact with the kid that robbed the liquor store but is it really worth his career to take action and risk being thrust into the public spotlight? If he says, "Come here, please. I need to ask you a few questions" and the kid tells him to **** off should he just walk away?

    If a cop has his own interests in mind he would certainly, in light of the circumstances in Ferguson, have to think twice before having any kind of physical contact with a confrontational black suspect.

    That might be a good thing for community relations between police and blacks. Certainly less confrontation would be welcome....wouldn't it?
    I dont think your assessment is complete enough to base your questions on. We dont know for a fact many of the things you wrote as a given.

    Today they released that Brown took 6 shots to the front, not back. I sure want to know why...I see zero reason to believe the cop that stupid or malicious. THere was no gun....and no claim he saw one. There has to be more to this story.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

  6. #36
    Sage
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:30 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,975

    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Ah, but you know how "for the time being" can go.

    The thing is that Brown "bum-rushed" the cop, which is why the toxicology report may be important. If he had just committed robbery, he might have been just naturally pumped up/full of it anyway, and maybe the cop's uniform was the problem rather than race.
    I keep seeing this....Idont think people are using this term correctly. The bum rush is grabbing someone by the seat of the pants/clothing and throwing them out of a business or alley.

    Is this what people are saying that's what Brown tried to do? It requires actual contact to be correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

  7. #37
    Sage
    Bodhisattva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    New Zealand
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:07 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    64,063

    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    I hope that it does but I am not sure that it will... American cops are so far removed from common sense and civility that for them to go back does not seem realistic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

  8. #38
    Sage
    Bodhisattva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    New Zealand
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:07 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    64,063

    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    SOME are rioting. MOST are protesting peacefully. The cops don't care and attack everyone. That is not acceptable. Period.
    When some are rioting then the peaceful protestors should listen to the cops and ****ING DISPERSE. Get a license, notify the police and have a peaceful demonstration the next day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

  9. #39
    Sage
    Excon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Last Seen
    10-14-17 @ 01:26 PM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,997

    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I dont think your assessment is complete enough to base your questions on. We dont know for a fact many of the things you wrote as a given.

    Today they released that Brown took 6 shots to the front, not back. I sure want to know why...I see zero reason to believe the cop that stupid or malicious. THere was no gun....and no claim he saw one. There has to be more to this story.
    What evidence do you not know about?
    He attacked the Officer and pushed him back into his vehicle, went for his gun and injured the Officers face which requiring hospitalization.
    After the Officer was able to get out of his vehicle, brown didn't surrender but instead progressed towards (charged) the officer as the Officer fired.
    “The law is reason, free from passion.”
    Aristotle
    (≚ᄌ≚)

  10. #40
    Sage
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:30 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,975

    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    What evidence do you not know about?
    He attacked the Officer and pushed him back into his vehicle, went for his gun and injured the Officers face which requiring hospitalization.
    After the Officer was able to get out of his vehicle, brown didn't surrender but instead progressed towards (charged) the officer as the Officer fired
    .
    I have not seen an official report on that....can you provide a link? I've also not seen it substantiated by the current investigation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

Page 4 of 15 FirstFirst ... 2345614 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •