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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    The cop hasn't been tried and convicted in the media. The media doesn't convict anybody. The court system does, and this guy as a good chance of being found innocent given he is cop and knows the law.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'd agree that's what's supposed to happen but if the situation deteriorates there is a very real chance that the cop's career will be over and he and his family will be in serious danger just because he did what he's supposed to do.

    This cop has been tried and convicted in the media and in the public sphere even though the evidence hasn't come out yet. He is looking at a federal indictment on civil rights crimes and it's pretty much a given that he will be charged with murder. The public has demanded it and the state authorities seem to be leaning in that direction just as a measure to sate the public venom. You have to admit that's a pretty ****ty situation to be in just because you're doing your job and it's exactly that kind of thing that might make another cop think twice before getting involved at all.

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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Was it actually confirmed it was him in the video?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    You are right, but the problem doesn't stop with the cop. It was bad enough that this started in the first place. Then it snowballs, because the video was released? Seriously? I read that people were pissed that the video was nothing more than a smear campaign against Brown. How is it a smear campaign if it's the truth???? This is pissing me off - like a lot. The kid was seen on video, practically picking up the store clerk by the neck, and we are supposed to believe that he's an innocent victim who was bullied by the cops? The governor needs to get ahold of this. Is the National Guard there yet? If not, why?



    You are right on that as well. And now Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are getting involved, too. Yeah, that makes the entire stupid situation even more credible.

    I feel badly for the cop. They should have never caved to public pressure and released his name.

    I guess I just don't have an answer. Honestly, in this situation, I think Brown was dead wrong, and if what I heard was correct, the cop had no recourse but to shoot, because Brown was coming after him, even after repeatedly being told to stop. But this is the problem -- Rodney King. Amadou Diallo. Abner Louima. Trayvon Martin. Jordan Davis.

    This bullcrap has been going on for so long, that when there is a guilty black man, nobody can say anything about it without it turning into a freaking civil rights issue. There are too many innocents that have been killed, so now all black men who are shot by white cops are going to be martyrs, whether they are guilty or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Which is pretty much why I'd opt to segregate cops into neighborhoods where they are the same race as the neighborhood majority. If you can't even trust the populations to keep their **** together when something like this happens, then you have to placate them like the children they are. That's one of our societal problems these days- people lose their minds when anything pisses them off. I get freaking tired of it.
    People riot over college football, which is a very minor issue... I don't know what to say.

    What has a riot ever achieved?

    I don't think of it as a personal problem to me since I have never lived in an area that has rioted. It is very sad however.

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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    People riot over college football, which is a very minor issue... I don't know what to say.

    What has a riot ever achieved?

    I don't think of it as a personal problem to me since I have never lived in an area that has rioted. It is very sad however.
    To me, it isn't sad. It's bull**** for them to be looting and acting violently. Protesting is fine and good. Peaceful protest is cool. The hippie movement had it right back in the 60's. What we are seeing nowadays isn't peaceful protest. It's people getting pissed off and losing their ****.
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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    People have a right to free speech and peaceful protest. Nobody should lose their rights because of anybody else. There is no evidence to suggest the entire town is rioting, or that the entire town is violent. There actually have been peaceful protests. Furthermore, if you stay home during a riot, it doesn't exactly mean you are safe, nor does it mean you are preventing a riot.

    Police need to keep the citizens safe, and citizens have a right to protest, but not to riot. It would be wrong of the cops to label every single protester and citizen a rioter.



    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    You do realize, of course, that if these "poor people of Missouri" would go their asses home, this wouldn't be happening. If they go home, the cops go home. It's not rocket science. They are rioting. They are looting. They are shooting towards the police cars.

    What do you want the police to do, write them a strongly worded letter?

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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    People have a right to free speech and peaceful protest. Nobody should lose their rights because of anybody else. There is no evidence to suggest the entire town is rioting, or that the entire town is violent. There actually have been peaceful protests. Furthermore, if you stay home during a riot, it doesn't exactly mean you are safe, nor does it mean you are preventing a riot.

    Police need to keep the citizens safe, and citizens have a right to protest, but not to riot. It would be wrong of the cops to label every single protester and citizen a rioter.
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    Ok, how does LE carry out that statement "to keep the citizens safe, and citizens have a right to protest, but not to riot".

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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'm not so sure that segregated departments are really the answer. That's more like slapping a bandaid on a severed artery. A viable community requires that people of all races, faiths, etc. work together for the good of that community.
    The question i have then is this. What do you do when a significant segment of one of those groups that are members of a community, refuse to work with the others, or believe that the others are out to get them? What do you do when they start to riot? and they don't trust those who are hired to protect the community as a whole?

    What do you do when they do this out of ignorance because their schools are so bad as to be non-functional at best, at worst a recruiting and training ground for gangs and other subversive organizations and organized crime, that wish to see the community harmed? are the other segments in the right to remove them, or to separate or segregate that section from the others? does this then become racism, sexism, or some other form of bigotry that the majority imposes upon the section of that community that caused the problem? or is it then a justifiable precaution based upon the problems that that section brought upon the others?

    These are the questions that need addressing i think...
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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Well, this post was certainly pointless to read... hope you got something out of writing it at least.
    Only to you, because it shows you to be wrong.
    But I am sure you got the point, as you choose to respond to it.
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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Oh my god... by leaving the scene, going home to bed and re-assembling at the court house the next day or a designated safe public area, that is how. Are we both not adults that can think of adult responses or are we emotionally compromised and can think of nothing other than standing in front of a group of militarized cops and defying them even though violence is occurring around you? What the ****...
    People have the Constitutional right to protest on public streets. Protesting is not defying cops. Perhaps you prefer a dictatorial police state, but I prefer a constitutional republic.
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    re: Will Ferguson have a chilling effect on police?[W:144]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Only to you, because it shows you to be wrong.
    But I am sure you got the point, as you choose to respond to it.
    No... it was really just that lame.
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