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    Re: Should All Police Have to Wear Body Cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    "The police" are not "the psycho/sociopaths". Police officers no more try to "get away with it" than any other group.
    Some cops are psycho/sociopaths. Cops may not try to get away with misdeeds more than anyone else, but their misdeeds are more harmful to the public. In addition, the whole justice system favors the word of the police over an ordinary citizen. The police have a union, co-workers, management and government attorneys on their side and a special system of internal investigation and discipline rigged to help them get away with bad behavior.

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    Re: Should All Police Have to Wear Body Cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    So the truth is BS? You want to monitor police because of corruption and the possibility them killing someone innocent.

    By that measure, then socialist history proves the first we should monitor for such things would be socialist.

    In other words, when it comes to corruption and death, socialist are the last people who should be pointing fingers at others.
    Public employees have no right to privacy when it comes to their job.

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    Re: Should All Police Have to Wear Body Cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Some cops are psycho/sociopaths. Cops may not try to get away with misdeeds more than anyone else, but their misdeeds are more harmful to the public. In addition, the whole justice system favors the word of the police over an ordinary citizen. The police have a union, co-workers, management and government attorneys on their side and a special system of internal investigation and discipline rigged to help them get away with bad behavior.
    Those things are in place to protect the average cop, a good guy. That those things are abused by the rare crazy person is irrelevant.

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    Re: Should All Police Have to Wear Body Cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Those things are in place to protect the average cop, a good guy. That those things are abused by the rare crazy person is irrelevant.
    Says you.
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    Re: Should All Police Have to Wear Body Cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Says you.
    Yeah, or maybe...

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    Re: Should All Police Have to Wear Body Cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Those things are in place to protect the average cop, a good guy. That those things are abused by the rare crazy person is irrelevant.
    It is not a fair system, cops tend to protect fellow officers who literally 'have their back" and the (usually) secret discipline hearings are not fair to members of the public victimized by bad cops. Few cops actually murder people, but petty theft (especially of drugs), perjury, unlawful orders, illegal searches, verbal abuse and rudeness, planting evidence, withholding evidence, unnecessary shoving, hitting and grabbing, racial profiling and many other types of misconduct are not rare.

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    Re: Should All Police Have to Wear Body Cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    It is not a fair system, cops tend to protect fellow officers who literally 'have their back." Few cops actually murder people, but petty theft (esp of drugs), perjury, unlawful orders, illegal searches, verbal abuse and rudeness, planting evidence, withholding evidence, unnecessary shoving, hitting and grabbing, racial profiling and many other types of misconduct are not rare.
    No blood no foul. Move along, citizen.

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    Re: Should All Police Have to Wear Body Cameras?

    "A man locked up for 18 years after being wrongfully convicted in a double-murder case is poised to get $3.5 million from San Francisco.

    City Attorney Dennis Herrera has recommended the city settle the lawsuit by Caramad Conley for that amount, documents newly introduced at the Board of Supervisors show. The settlement still must be approved by the board, which is to take up the matter this month, but supervisors routinely approve such settlements. Police Chief Greg Suhr and the city's Police Commission have already signed off on it, the documents show.

    Conley, 40, was locked up in 1992. In 1994, he was convicted and sentenced to serve two life-without-parole terms for the 1989 drive-by shooting deaths of Roshawn Johnson and Charles Hughes that left 11 others injured. Prosecutors said the shooting was gang-motivated. A judge ruled in December 2010 that he had been wrongly convicted. He was released a month later.

    San Francisco Superior Court Judge Marla Miller found that police investigators knew that the prosecution's star witness, Clifford Polk, lied on the stand about whether he was being paid, but they did nothing to intervene. Miller concluded that the lead investigator in the case, Earl Sanders - who later became police chief - knew about the perjury "and did not correct it."

    http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/...-5-5619070.php

    A city can buy a lot of video cameras for officers for 3.5 million.

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    Re: Should All Police Have to Wear Body Cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    "A man locked up for 18 years after being wrongfully convicted in a double-murder case is poised to get $3.5 million from San Francisco.

    City Attorney Dennis Herrera has recommended the city settle the lawsuit by Caramad Conley for that amount, documents newly introduced at the Board of Supervisors show. The settlement still must be approved by the board, which is to take up the matter this month, but supervisors routinely approve such settlements. Police Chief Greg Suhr and the city's Police Commission have already signed off on it, the documents show.

    Conley, 40, was locked up in 1992. In 1994, he was convicted and sentenced to serve two life-without-parole terms for the 1989 drive-by shooting deaths of Roshawn Johnson and Charles Hughes that left 11 others injured. Prosecutors said the shooting was gang-motivated. A judge ruled in December 2010 that he had been wrongly convicted. He was released a month later.

    San Francisco Superior Court Judge Marla Miller found that police investigators knew that the prosecution's star witness, Clifford Polk, lied on the stand about whether he was being paid, but they did nothing to intervene. Miller concluded that the lead investigator in the case, Earl Sanders - who later became police chief - knew about the perjury "and did not correct it."

    Wrongfully convicted S.F. man poised to get $3.5 million - SFGate

    A city can buy a lot of video cameras for officers for 3.5 million.
    How exactly would video cameras prevent a witness from lying on the stand about being paid for his testimony?

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    Re: Should All Police Have to Wear Body Cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    How exactly would video cameras prevent a witness from lying on the stand about being paid for his testimony?
    It probably wouldnt but it still highlights wrong doing by people in positions of trust. Perhaps the field officers making the arrest could have shed light on the situation though with recorded evidence.
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