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Thread: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

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    Re: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Hogwash. Russia has shown incredible restraint. It is Ukraine that is attempting to provoke the Russians and draw NATO into the conflict and get the UK, EU, AND NATO to foot the bill. Ukraine can't even handle the separatists and you think they could handle the Russians? Russia could overrun Ukraine like a parking lot, but Russia is trying to maintain realistic relations with its' neighboring countries and doesn't want an antagonistic relationship. The US wants to destroy the EU/Russia trade and banking ties and I would guess it is in regards to preventing the collapse of the USDollar in Central Banking circles. So far, it is just damaging the EU economies. How long before the EU realizes its' relationship with Russia does not have an Atlantic barrier, nor a banking monopoly?
    Incredible restraint by providing arms to the seperatist?

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    Re: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Incredible restraint by providing arms to the seperatist?
    The separatists are Russian speaking Ukrainians. They are not terrorists. The papers are cheerleading a Gaza type genocide against these "terrorists," that are just the same people that have lived their entire lives there. Farmers, miners, wives, mothers, brothers, children and all at home being bombarded by artillery. Many Kiev leaders including Yulia Tymoshenko have publicly demanded they be wiped out like cockroaches and subhumans. It has been fascist, Nazi, Banderite influences that have been allowed into the Kiev junta and are influencing anti-Russian speaking policies and actions. I know it must all be huge coincidence that Ukraine is a major transit hub for Big Energy and of course it couldn't have anything to do with the instability there the same as Libya, Iraq, Syria, Iran, etc., don't ya' know?

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    Re: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The separatists are Russian speaking Ukrainians. They are not terrorists. The papers are cheerleading a Gaza type genocide against these "terrorists," that are just the same people that have lived their entire lives there. Farmers, miners, wives, mothers, brothers, children and all at home being bombarded by artillery. Many Kiev leaders including Yulia Tymoshenko have publicly demanded they be wiped out like cockroaches and subhumans. It has been fascist, Nazi, Banderite influences that have been allowed into the Kiev junta and are influencing anti-Russian speaking policies and actions. I know it must all be huge coincidence that Ukraine is a major transit hub for Big Energy and of course it couldn't have anything to do with the instability there the same as Libya, Iraq, Syria, Iran, etc., don't ya' know?
    So are you saying the Russians should be able to be involved anywhere there are Russian people there? That seems like a bad policy in general. At the very least now, there's a bout half a dozen countries that would look at the precedent and logically wonder if their next.

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    Re: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    So are you saying the Russians should be able to be involved anywhere there are Russian people there? That seems like a bad policy in general. At the very least now, there's a bout half a dozen countries that would look at the precedent and logically wonder if their next.

    No. You seem to be the one saying that. I'm saying that a bunch of Nazis from Kiev are wanting to commit genocide on the people of Ukraine that voted for Yanukovych and the Russians would prefer to keep these people alive. Not sure why. Kiev assures they are nothing but cockroaches and subhumans. I mean, would Kiev lie to you or is that what this poll is about?

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    Re: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    No. You seem to be the one saying that. I'm saying that a bunch of Nazis from Kiev are wanting to commit genocide on the people of Ukraine that voted for Yanukovych and the Russians would prefer to keep these people alive. Not sure why. Kiev assures they are nothing but cockroaches and subhumans. I mean, would Kiev lie to you or is that what this poll is about?
    Where you getting this information from? Russia Today?

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    Re: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Where you getting this information from? Russia Today?
    Who's killing who in South and East Ukraine? I didn't see or hear of the separatists attacking Kiev. Perhaps you have inside information. Or not.

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    Re: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You would really bet on the outnumbered Ukraine troops against massively better armed Russians?
    I believe it would be a Russian Vietnam story. Yes they will storm Ukraine, but they will never be able to keep it!
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    Re: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Hogwash. Russia has shown incredible restraint. It is Ukraine that is attempting to provoke the Russians and draw NATO into the conflict and get the UK, EU, AND NATO to foot the bill. Ukraine can't even handle the separatists and you think they could handle the Russians? Russia could overrun Ukraine like a parking lot, but Russia is trying to maintain realistic relations with its' neighboring countries and doesn't want an antagonistic relationship. The US wants to destroy the EU/Russia trade and banking ties and I would guess it is in regards to preventing the collapse of the USDollar in Central Banking circles. So far, it is just damaging the EU economies. How long before the EU realizes its' relationship with Russia does not have an Atlantic barrier, nor a banking monopoly?
    See my post above about what would happen if Russia invaded the rest of Ukraine also (not just Crimea).
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    Re: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I believe it would be a Russian Vietnam story. Yes they will storm Ukraine, but they will never be able to keep it!
    Put it in the hands of a Ramzan Kadyrov lookalike.

    Sorry, only a joke. But I thought it interesting that you think the Ukrainians would convert to partisans.

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    Re: Ukraine Says It Destroyed Russian Vehicles That Entered Territory

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Put it in the hands of a Ramzan Kadyrov lookalike.

    Sorry, only a joke. But I thought it interesting that you think the Ukrainians would convert to partisans.
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