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Thread: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

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    Re: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    There is no excuse for a policemen to shoot an unarmed man. Whatever crime the person may be suspected of is irrelevant to the police action.

    That all said, this very thread is a bit offensive. Trying someone in absentia, with almost no facts to work with, is nothing more then rumor mongering. I suppose, however, that is keeping with most debates at DP, as it seems too many people like to debate things they know very little about and just want to debate feelings and impressions rather than facts.

    Actually, yes there is.

    If someone physically assaults a Police Officer the officer can and WILL use deadly force to stop his attacker.

    No Cop is going to take the chance of getting knocked out so they can then be disarmed and have their gun used against them.

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    Re: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

    My impression of this whole situation is that no one really knows what happened, but a bunch of people made assumptions and acted on them.

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    That said, I always tend to approach a situation involving a police officer shooting someone from the perspective of "why did they shoot the person?".
    If that question is not answered, I move on to things like "should they have shot the person?"
    If I get a no on that last, we enter the territory of "was it a mistake or intentional?", and "what reason(s), if any, did the police officer have that would justify shooting this person?"

    So you see, it takes a bit to reach the point of "that police officer is a sick SOB who just wanted to shoot someone", let alone "they shot the person because of their race".
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    Re: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Actually, yes there is.

    If someone physically assaults a Police Officer the officer can and WILL use deadly force to stop his attacker.

    No Cop is going to take the chance of getting knocked out so they can then be disarmed and have their gun used against them.
    You are correct... I was not precise in my answer. I believe I was responding to the notion of a fleeing suspect. If an officer believes his life or the life of others is imminently endanger, he can use deadly force. If the man is merely fleeing, regardless of the crime, he can not.

    That said, if the man is unarmed, the bar of "believing one's life is in danger" is a bit higher than if he is armed...

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    Re: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

    taking cigars from a little store owner and confronting an armed police are two different things please give me a break!!!!! the big tuff black guy syndrome lol i hope no one here is justifing the shooting.....

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    Re: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

    so what you are saying is that if you hit a cop and run he can kill you correct? but what is interesting is that cops are assauted everyday and people run looks like there would be alot more people shot by police maybe 2 to 5 hundred a day lolMore believable that Michael brown was violent??-cattle-sniper-2-jpg now this guy from the cattle guy in nevada pionting his gun at the police should have been shot lol
    Last edited by plutonium; 08-18-14 at 02:43 PM.

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    Re: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    taking cigars from a little store owner and confronting an armed police are two different things please give me a break!!!!! the big tuff black guy syndrome lol i hope no one here is justifing the shooting.....
    "Little store owner".

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    Re: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Careful, those are some big, adult words you are using: confirmed, insinuated. I recommend that you not use such words until you actually know what they mean.

    In that post you cited, I stated clearly that the Johnson was likely coerced into confessing the robbery by the cops in exchange for not being charged w/another crime.

    In other words, confession doesn't prove guilt, a concept that rush likely hasn't taught you.

    By Occam's Razor (another word to which you're not likely familiar), that's the explanation for him not being charged, given all the OTHER known facts.
    It's more than a little premature to mention Sir William.

    But if we were, and I'm not, how likely is it that Johnson's confession was coerced when it surely was recorded and a jury will see it? And which is more likely--that this cop went rogue and shot a "gentle giant" to death or that Brown bum-rushed the cop?

    (Who knows? As JayDubya said on another thread, both of these explanations are dumb.)

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    Re: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

    Brown is obviously a dirt bag... not sure that means the shooting was justified though.
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    Re: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    "Little store owner".

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    The store owner was a small Indian (from India) looking man that was a midget compared to Brown.
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    Re: More believable that Michael brown was violent??

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    so what you are saying is that if you hit a cop and run he can kill you correct? but what is interesting is that cops are assauted everyday and people run looks like there would be alot more people shot by police maybe 2 to 5 hundred a day lolMore believable that Michael brown was violent??-cattle-sniper-2-jpg now this guy from the cattle guy in nevada pionting his gun at the police should have been shot lol

    taking cigars from a little store owner and confronting an armed police are two different things please give me a break!!!!! the big tuff black guy syndrome lol i hope no one here is justifing the shooting.....
    Your writing is very convoluted... can you clarify please.
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