View Poll Results: What of the following does the best for eliminating poverty in the world?

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  • Private property.

    55 5.48%
  • Unions.

    315 31.41%
  • Personal liberty.

    69 6.88%
  • Entitlements.

    403 40.18%
  • Taxation

    463 46.16%
  • Freedom from coercion/association.

    52 5.18%
  • Government programs/policies.

    410 40.88%
  • The free market.

    79 7.88%
  • Class struggle.

    14 1.40%
  • Working for oneself.

    59 5.88%
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Thread: How is poverty best eliminated?

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It depends on what you mean by poor. If you mean those who have less than others, then you're right because statistically someone will always have less than someone else. That's a pretty useless definition though, according to that definition, Warren Buffet is poor compared to Bill Gates because Buffet only has $62 million, compared to Gates' $76 million. That really doesn't mean anything though.
    The definition of "poor" is not having less than Bill Gates. Warren Buffet is not poor by anyone's standard of definition.

    Webster's definition of "poor":
    poor adjective \ˈpu̇r, ˈpȯr\
    : having little money or few possessions : not having enough money for the basic things that people need to live properly
    There will always be poverty in the world. If you are a religious person, I would refer you to the Bible, as backup. (Matthew)

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    It is the illogical ideas at play. If these single mothers would just get married, then their husbands will be presented with employment........because (magic).......the jobs will happen because they are married!

    Let's ignore the fact that a huge portion of those men left because they were unemployed......but of course, the reason they are unemployed is because of their own personal, inherent failings....wink wink.
    First off I never said marriage=jobs. Please focus. Secondly if you have a link that shows these men leave marriages because they are employed I'd love to see it.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    And shouldn't be.
    There will always be poverty. The poor can be helped, but poverty among some cannot be eliminated. It should be included in the poll. It is silly to think nonsensical things instead of recognizing reality.

    It is a part of being human. Your problem is that you think being poor is so awful. To many, it is not. There are religious people in the world who shun worldly goods and intentionally live in poverty, so they can concentrate on their faith and not be diverted with earthly things.

    As Jesus said, "The poor will always be with you....." [Matthew]

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    There will always be poverty. The poor can be helped, but poverty among some cannot be eliminated. It should be included in the poll. It is silly to think nonsensical things instead of recognizing reality.

    It is a part of being human. Your problem is that you think being poor is so awful. To many, it is not. There are religious people in the world who shun worldly goods and intentionally live in poverty, so they can concentrate on their faith and not be diverted with earthly things.

    As Jesus said, "The poor will always be with you....." [Matthew]
    I agree that being poor isn't always awful (at least not for me and people I know/knew) but the issue comes out of class struggle. The left constantly exploits this for political purposes.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I agree that being poor isn't always awful (at least not for me and people I know/knew) but the issue comes out of class struggle. The left constantly exploits this for political purposes.
    We can agree on that, then. The govt should do all it can, IMO, to ensure the opportunities are there for all, and take care of poor children (I believe that if you don't have good medical care and food and education as a child, you are doomed to a life of poverty). But there's only so much the govt can do. Poverty is exploited for political reasons.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    We can agree on that, then. The govt should do all it can, IMO, to ensure the opportunities are there for all, and take care of poor children (I believe that if you don't have good medical care and food and education as a child, you are doomed to a life of poverty). But there's only so much the govt can do. Poverty is exploited for political reasons.
    Which side, in our American arena of politics, do you think exploits poverty for political reasons the most?

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    The definition of "poor" is not having less than Bill Gates. Warren Buffet is not poor by anyone's standard of definition.
    That's why I said it depended on how you defined the word. Lots of people have some really bizarre usage of terms that seem to come out of left field, that's why you have to be careful and ask.

    There will always be poverty in the world. If you are a religious person, I would refer you to the Bible, as backup. (Matthew)
    Sorry, I wouldn't trust the Bible farther than I could throw it.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    First off I never said marriage=jobs. Please focus.
    That is the magical implication of claiming "marriage "could" reduce poverty". Focus...please.
    Secondly if you have a link that shows these men leave marriages because they are employed I'd love to see it.
    I did not say they leave because of employment....in fact I said the OPPOSITE. FOCUS, PLEASE!
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Which side, in our American arena of politics, do you think exploits poverty for political reasons the most?
    Rhetorically? That answer is obvious in the "conversations" produced by cons like:

    Yes. Liberals and the war on poverty created this mess. Incentives to dissolve the family (which means poverty), and make the state a womans "husband". This is how destructive the left is.
    But then the argument will get shifted to "buying of votes" and other nonsense.......which is countered by the fact that poor white conservatives are the largest segment of poverty beneficiaries.....and they are not voting Dem....so that argument crumbles.

    What remains?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    That is the magical implication of claiming "marriage "could" reduce poverty". Focus...please.I did not say they leave because of employment....in fact I said the OPPOSITE. FOCUS, PLEASE!
    I dont see whats so hard to understand here. I said single marriage was the greatest single predictor of poverty. Now this is a fact, and if you dispute this-kindly show evidence now.

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