View Poll Results: What of the following does the best for eliminating poverty in the world?

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  • Private property.

    55 5.48%
  • Unions.

    315 31.41%
  • Personal liberty.

    69 6.88%
  • Entitlements.

    403 40.18%
  • Taxation

    463 46.16%
  • Freedom from coercion/association.

    52 5.18%
  • Government programs/policies.

    410 40.88%
  • The free market.

    79 7.88%
  • Class struggle.

    14 1.40%
  • Working for oneself.

    59 5.88%
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Thread: How is poverty best eliminated?

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Work hard, be responsible and use your money wisely. No government is going to eliminate poverty by offering handouts. It's up to the individual.
    Exactly. Alot of poverty could be ended simply by putting an expiration date on welfare entitlements. If adults find that they have to work to eat, they will choose to work.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Yeah that sounds like a recipe for success.
    As long as there are material assets some people will control more than others. Thus poverty will always exist.
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Eliminating money would actually cause more harm than good, I think.
    That is why I said "even then it's not really going to work

    Unless a person has no necessities to purchase, they will need some method of transforming their labor into portable form.
    Yeah, that's why I said it won't work.
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




    Many links have been posted many times. Surely you've seen them. Just go to the websites of the UN, OECD, wikipedia, nationmaster, or the site of your choice. Let us know when you find a link that doesn't say the opposite of what you're claiming.
    And apparently you don't know how to read the data, because the data precisely back up what I've been saying all along. The top 29 countries on the list on that link are almost all first-world socialized democracies. Just because you personally may want to claim otherwise, thats what the data say.
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Poverty would best be addressed by a jobs program with genuine local impact Nationwide. For example, put wind generators and PV panels and added insulation and better windows on homes all over the Nation. It creates jobs installing and maintaining the equipment. The job money is spent in the local communities where the homes are. The savings generated and not sent to the local Centralized Distribution of Energy monopoly would also be spent locally. More money in communities makes jobs. It not like "Trickle down" that doesn't trickle down, but trickles up and stays there.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Poverty would best be addressed by a jobs program with genuine local impact Nationwide. For example, put wind generators and PV panels and added insulation and better windows on homes all over the Nation. It creates jobs installing and maintaining the equipment. The job money is spent in the local communities where the homes are. The savings generated and not sent to the local Centralized Distribution of Energy monopoly would also be spent locally. More money in communities makes jobs. It not like "Trickle down" that doesn't trickle down, but trickles up and stays there.
    How about we start to apply tariffs to foreign good, and stop taxing productivity, so that "Made in USA" is competitive again?

    If that doesn't work, then I will consider "jobs programs" as an option.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    How about we start to apply tariffs to foreign good, and stop taxing productivity, so that "Made in USA" is competitive again?

    If that doesn't work, then I will consider "jobs programs" as an option.
    I personally think that tariffs cause wars. In this Nation, Corporate hucksters would make sure the tariffs generated windfall profits at a Corporate level and screw a bunch of consumers. Our gov't would levy tariffs to benefit GE and other non taxpaying Corps. It's just how it really works. It's more of the alleged "trickle down." I also believe that it is our current gov't policy to kill unions and drive down wages to make the US competitive. I don't like that much either.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I personally think that tariffs cause wars. In this Nation, Corporate hucksters would make sure the tariffs generated windfall profits at a Corporate level and screw a bunch of consumers. Our gov't would levy tariffs to benefit GE and other non taxpaying Corps. It's just how it really works. It's more of the alleged "trickle down." I also believe that it is our current gov't policy to kill unions and drive down wages to make the US competitive. I don't like that much either.
    Corporations will do what ever is in their power to maximize profits. If it becomes more profitable to return manufacturing to the USA, they will.

    I don't think you see the same problems I do.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    How about we start to apply tariffs to foreign good, and stop taxing productivity, so that "Made in USA" is competitive again?

    If that doesn't work, then I will consider "jobs programs" as an option.
    Tariffs to protect workers jobs. Congrats, another point promoted by Marx.

    Instead, why don't American workers at least make something with quality instead of junk. Or we can just get rid of minimum wage and actually pay them what their worth. Cost of living would certainly go down.
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Corporations will do what ever is in their power to maximize profits. If it becomes more profitable to return manufacturing to the USA, they will.

    I don't think you see the same problems I do.
    How profitable can you make when manufacturing in the US would close most companies out of some markets that just cannot afford the price. How much global profits do you think they are willing to give up to restrict themselves to just American profits?

    Making American products only affordable in the US and Europe, and even then not by all, is not going to improve America's economy. Trade wars when we start raising tariffs also will not.

    The only things that will make America stronger economically is to reduce labor costs, regulation costs and Taxes. Western countries are just too inflated for their products to be competitive or even sold world wide. The western nations needs to deflate costs so our companies can compete world wide with our labor.

    Ending minimum wage, labor and environmental harassment and social programs coupled with a progressive business tax based upon profit margins would do that.
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