View Poll Results: What of the following does the best for eliminating poverty in the world?

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  • Private property.

    55 5.48%
  • Unions.

    315 31.41%
  • Personal liberty.

    69 6.88%
  • Entitlements.

    403 40.18%
  • Taxation

    463 46.16%
  • Freedom from coercion/association.

    52 5.18%
  • Government programs/policies.

    410 40.88%
  • The free market.

    79 7.88%
  • Class struggle.

    14 1.40%
  • Working for oneself.

    59 5.88%
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Thread: How is poverty best eliminated?

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I don't know many who claim that government can end the struggle of the middle class or make "everyone rich". Government can aid in the struggles of the very poor/poverty...and that is what we are talking about here. Its not about demonizing wealth.
    Did you somehow miss The Obama administration and his campaigns?


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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    State and local govt actually have an adversarial relationship with business. And its endless, mindless bureaucracy that create disincentives for businessmen/women.

    I met the governator and boxer once at a funeral, Its a sham, rolled in glitter up there. Absolutely clueless. Nevermind the state PA and Paramedic agencies.
    There is a reason the State of California is ranked at the bottom for it's business environment. I call it the Progressive Machine

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    There is a reason the State of California is ranked at the bottom for it's business environment. I call it the Progressive Machine
    From the sounds of it, you blame "progressives" when you lose a sock in the dryer.

    "Progressive" is not a synonym for "things Ocean doesn't like."
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    From the sounds of it, you blame "progressives" when you lose a sock in the dryer.

    "Progressive" is not a synonym for "things Ocean doesn't like."
    Gee Kobie, I have never written it was. Progressives have trouble with context.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Gee Kobie, I have never written it was. Progressives have trouble with context.
    Well golly, this is at least the third time today I've seen you prattle on about "progressives," and you've given absolutely zero context to your own comments outside of a couple of mild platitudes regarding them on the Purge thread.

    BTW, I'm no progressive, and unlike (apparently) you, I actually know what the word means.
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Well golly, this is at least the third time today I've seen you prattle on about "progressives," and you've given absolutely zero context to your own comments outside of a couple of mild platitudes regarding them on the Purge thread.

    BTW, I'm no progressive, and unlike (apparently) you, I actually know what the word means.
    Well, apparently you don't. The only time I reference Progressive is when the shoe fits. Other than that, I do appreciate you offering your opinion.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Well, apparently you don't. The only time I reference Progressive is when the shoe fits. Other than that, I do appreciate you offering your opinion.
    You haven't said exactly WHAT progressive policies have caused anything, or even what you think "progressive policies" are; you've simply barfed up "X sucks because progressives, QED."
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Here's how I view progressives/progressiveism:

    Progressivism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    Progressivism is a broad political philosophy based on the Idea of Progress, which asserts that advances in science, technology, economic development, and social organization can improve the human condition.
    To me, this means that progressives, as wikipedia states, think advances in various areas will improve things.

    However, I suspect that some progressives do not realize "advances" does not necessarily mean "good". After all, the nuclear bomb was an advancement.

    Every advancement has it's negative side, so while progress can and does improve things, we must always be wary of what problems it may cause now or in the future.
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You haven't said exactly WHAT progressive policies have caused anything, or even what you think "progressive policies" are; you've simply barfed up "X sucks because progressives, QED."
    Well, I've certainly pointed to Caliifornia as a macro example. I could waste a lot of time and post all sorts of links and such, but in the end, it certainly wouldn't matter to you, so why bother?

    You're welcome to believe I don't know what a Progressive is, that is your choice.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    How is poverty best eliminated?
    some ideas :

    accept that teenagers are genetically programmed to screw, and do not have fully developed myelin sheaths in their prefrontal cortexes; a situation which often leads to less than stellar decision making. put them on birth control early, and possibly by default until they're ready for kiddos.

    ensure that anyone anywhere has access to higher education without having to sign up for horrendous debt.

    humanitarian missions in the third world, and spread the good parts of our culture. it's fun to be an American. it's fun enough that the communists in Russia got jealous and said "**** this ****." i've often thought that the best thing we could do for NK is to launch some internet satellites and then drop a bunch of smartphones.

    train and hire people to do what needs to be done. there is a ****load of **** that needs to be done, and is not really being done because it's not profitable. do it anyway. those people will buy fun stuff with the extra money. we need people to buy fun stuff, as we are a consumer spending driven economy.

    ship food and education to developing parts of the world. it might not make money immediately. it will, however, prevent a whole bunch of other bull**** which costs money, like wars, epidemics, and warlord nonsense.

    and if the suggestions above are not enough, social safety nets.

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