View Poll Results: What of the following does the best for eliminating poverty in the world?

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  • Private property.

    55 5.48%
  • Unions.

    315 31.41%
  • Personal liberty.

    69 6.88%
  • Entitlements.

    403 40.18%
  • Taxation

    463 46.16%
  • Freedom from coercion/association.

    52 5.18%
  • Government programs/policies.

    410 40.88%
  • The free market.

    79 7.88%
  • Class struggle.

    14 1.40%
  • Working for oneself.

    59 5.88%
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Thread: How is poverty best eliminated?

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Actually its just reality. Lefties don't like it.
    You obviously live a very sheltered life.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Aren't we around the same age?
    Im 33. Im guessing you are early 20's, no? I base this on your avatar and kitty pic from the forumite photo thread.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You obviously live a very sheltered life.
    Yeah in the LA area-the heart of liberal darkness so to speak.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Apparently defeatism and resignation trumps hard work with you. Its a shame.
    Not at all. I've just been around the real world and lived enough places to understand that although people can always pull themselves up by their bootstraps....some people are in a better position to pull themselves up than others. People are always going to do better through hard work than if they don't work hard....but the idea that anyone can be successful through hard work is a fallacy that has been perpetuated on the working classes that bears little actual reality.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I would be surprised. Your post speaks of youthful optimism.
    Haha. I'm not optimistic - I'm realistic. You can make it in this country if you work hard, be responsible and use your money in a smart way. I grew up poor and now I make almost 3x what my dad made when I was young. I'm not a genius, have a model body or rich uncle. I just worked my ass off.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Yeah in the LA area-the heart of liberal darkness so to speak.
    I'm not talking about geographical area. You can grow up in any area and still have a very sheltered life.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im 33. Im guessing you are early 20's, no? I base this on your avatar and kitty pic from the forumite photo thread.
    I'm also 33.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Haha. I'm not optimistic - I'm realistic. You can make it in this country if you work hard, be responsible and use your money in a smart way. I grew up poor and now I make almost 3x what my dad made when I was young. I'm not a genius, have a model body or rich uncle. I just worked my ass off.
    Like I said....hard work and perserverance will pay off for everyone...but only to a certain degree. The idea that all it takes is hard work and responsibility to be successful for a huge chunk of people is not reality. That's just the cold hard facts of our society. Our society is based on the concept that there will be hungry/poor that will work for minimal wages in order to supply the advantages for the upper classes.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I'm also 33.
    I would have put you slightly younger.....mid to late 20's. That's when I talked similar to what you are saying. I'm 50. I think most of my experience with reality came in my 30's and 40's.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Haha. I'm not optimistic - I'm realistic. You can make it in this country if you work hard, be responsible and use your money in a smart way. I grew up poor and now I make almost 3x what my dad made when I was young. I'm not a genius, have a model body or rich uncle. I just worked my ass off.
    I beat my parents (both college educated, first in their families) by age 30, and by a significant margin. That wasn't by not working hard or saying the deck is stacked against me, so why bother.

    People need to worry more about emulating successful behavior and less about being bitter of achievement.

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