View Poll Results: What of the following does the best for eliminating poverty in the world?

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  • Private property.

    55 5.48%
  • Unions.

    315 31.41%
  • Personal liberty.

    69 6.88%
  • Entitlements.

    403 40.18%
  • Taxation

    463 46.16%
  • Freedom from coercion/association.

    52 5.18%
  • Government programs/policies.

    410 40.88%
  • The free market.

    79 7.88%
  • Class struggle.

    14 1.40%
  • Working for oneself.

    59 5.88%
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Thread: How is poverty best eliminated?

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    In recent history and entirely contrary to popular opinion? Trade liberalization.
    Even China, India, and Bono get it.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Is that the same thing as free trade? Or am I misunderstanding...
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Work hard, be responsible and use your money wisely. No government is going to eliminate poverty by offering handouts. It's up to the individual.
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They'd either change or die and the problem would be solved either way. Unfortunately, we live in a society where stupid decisions are not punished, where liberals don't want anyone to suffer as a result of their bad decisions. If stupidity were painful, there wouldn't be so many stupid people. This is where 40 years of liberal politics has led us.
    It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Need. And pressure.
    "Political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. . . . Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness."
    ~Orwell, Politics and the English Language

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Riggght.
    It's more of a generalization than a rule.

    But think about it. Capitalist makes it big, then pays politicians to pass laws that protect their companies and hurt others. Harming capitalism in the process.
    Education.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    ...
    What in that statement led you to respond thusly?
    Education.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Riggght.
    ... that's how all economic systems are destroyed. Successful feudalists destroyed feudalism. Successful socialists in Western Europe have destroyed socialism. Successful capitalists destroyed capitalism.

    One of the ironies of human existence is that success destroys far more rapidly than failure.
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    ... that's how all economic systems are destroyed. Successful feudalists destroyed feudalism. Successful socialists in Western Europe have destroyed socialism. Successful capitalists destroyed capitalism.

    One of the ironies of human existence is that success destroys far more rapidly than failure.
    Your thoughts stem out of the lefts disdain for sucess.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Your thoughts stem out of the lefts disdain for sucess.
    ... or possibly from observation.

    Star athletes aren't the only people who go to seed once they taste the big victory, it happens in other professions and to entire civilizations.

    Take the United States for example. We reached the height of our power from 1945 through the 1960s before suffering a sharp 70s decline to the Vietnam War and the Oil Embargo. Then we made it back in the 80s by achieving victory over the Soviet Union before losing it in the Iraq War.

    In the case of feudalism: the system developed to stop the -90% population drop from the decline of the Roman Empire. For a thousand years, they managed to keep the population about even before finally eeking out enough of a surplus that they had more humans than they needed farmers. The result was an increasing level of innovation that led to the formation of the first towns and trade guilds. That was the genesis of modern capitalism. It started as a bubble within feudalism, nurtered by feudalism's success, and then exploded outward to destroy feudalism.

    It wasn't feudalism's failure that destroyed feudalism. Feudalism succeeded at its goal: reverse the population decline. Once that occurred, its relevance as an economic system faded away. Similarly, once the United States succeeded in destroying the Soviet Union, the other countries no longer needed us and stopped respecting our power. That's why we received minimal aid during the Iraq War.

    In much the same way, the purpose of capitalism is to make it possible for individuals to acquire great wealth. Through corporations, it creates individuals who have so much money they can buy their way out of accountability, the way the banks did in the 2008 recession, or the way Donald Trump does all the time. However, capitalism depends on accountability. Once accountability is gone, you've replaced it with corporatism.

    Real capitalism in the United States has been dying since the end of the Second World War, but historians will look back on 2008 as the final death.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 08-16-14 at 12:27 AM.
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