View Poll Results: What of the following does the best for eliminating poverty in the world?

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  • Private property.

    55 5.48%
  • Unions.

    315 31.41%
  • Personal liberty.

    69 6.88%
  • Entitlements.

    403 40.18%
  • Taxation

    463 46.16%
  • Freedom from coercion/association.

    52 5.18%
  • Government programs/policies.

    410 40.88%
  • The free market.

    79 7.88%
  • Class struggle.

    14 1.40%
  • Working for oneself.

    59 5.88%
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Thread: How is poverty best eliminated?

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And they do, the Democrats buy their votes with endless social programs designed to keep anyone from ever having to get off their fat, lazy asses. It's not solving the problem though, just making it worse.
    Yup, this, unions (where political power is extracted by force), and importing new uneducated and happy to be here immigrants, often from nations with histories of marxism.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I participate in a political research group, they pay me (Im the "conservative") to give my opinions on different ideas they are thinking about floating to the public. Brown is desperate, and trying to find new ways to bleed the public in order to pay for his liberal fruitopia. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad how many people clap like seals at silly ideas.
    Indeed it is sad. It's been a remarkable shell game Sacramento has been playing since Davis was booted from office. It boggles my mind how willing the public is in buying it. Brown and the rest of his Progressive cohorts are drunk with lust for more revenue, no question about it. Considering what they have created, it's no wonder they are. The misinformation and spin is the most amazing thing I've ever seen, and they get a free ride on it. I'm not sure what is worse, the free ride, or the actual misinformation and spin.

    Perhaps the worst part about their madness is how poorly the business community is treated. California should be leading the nation in economic activity, as it used to do. It's got everything going for it, except a state government that sees the private sector as a means to economic prosperity for all.

    Interesting you have a chance to provide some opinion in the process. That must be an eye opener at times.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Because they think everything should be handed to them without effort to earn it and that they deserve the same salary and benefits as people who actually educate themselves and work for it.
    A death knell of US exceptionalism. Just because some people were just incapable to be responsible for themselves.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Really? Are you so unfamiliar with the rest of the world that you do not know which nations have the highest standards of living, and which standards are lowest? Even the author of the OP knew better than to question that! Here, educate yourself on which nations have the highest standards of living.
    Actually, I'm very familiar with the rest of the world. The data say the opposite of what you claim, including the link that you posted.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Pssst...your socialism is showing. How is forcibly taking from some to give to others capitalist?

    Were you for the bailouts as well?
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    In recent history and entirely contrary to popular opinion? Trade liberalization.

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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Austerity measure, no one would lend them the money, now tell me what is the debt of the three socialist countries and who is lending them money to spend there way to prosperity. Remember they were borrowing and spending before they had to cut back as Keynesian did not work.
    "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." Dick Cheney said that.

    But what you're doing is confusing a snapshot with overall trend. It takes TIME to recover - economic recoveries don't happen overnight, and can take several years if it's bad enough. And you know what? All three are STILL first-world nations, unlike ANY nation that has small government, low effective taxes, and weak regulation.

    It is not recovering from anything, you call 25% unemployment a recovery, hell I guess Obama's worst recovery in US history after injecting 8 trillion into the economy is according to liberals the best recovery in US history.
    Funny. You - and everyone else who can't grasp that maybe, just maybe conservative economic dogma might not be Gospel - should listen to the other side of the story.

    When you have high unemployment like Greece at 25%, you telling me they are not at the poverty level. Tell me what are the living on?

    Thanks to the fact that the people live in a first-world socialized nation, they are mostly NOT homeless, but are receiving aids and allowances that allow them to recover. If you think this is stupid, ask yourself this: how can you get hired on (much less maintain) a job if you're homeless, meaning you can't take baths, can't keep your clothes clean, can't shave, etc.? But I guess you yourself think it's better for people to be homeless than it is for you to pay a cup of coffee's worth more in taxes.

    There is not tap dance, all you have to do is look at Spain, France and Greece and any idiot can see socialist countries like these have not prospered, they are overloaded with debt and high unemployment. Hell it's fact. Yet liberals use these countries as models that we should follow. Not if I can help it.
    You have no real experience in third-world nations, do you? Or if you went to such places you didn't pay attention. Because if you knew what life is like there - as I do - you'd know that while Spain, Greece, and (to a MUCH lesser extent) France are going through relatively tough times...these 'tough times' they're going through are still FAR better than that in ANY nation that has small government, low effective taxes, and weak regulation.

    All you seem to be able to think of is "Socialized first-world democracies bad"...but you're NOT thinking, "compared to what?"
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    focusing on single data points in order to obscure a greater trend is a poor strawman, designed to appeal only to those swayed by imagery.

    America's Taxes are the most progressive in the world, and our effective corporate tax rates are similarly higher than the worlds'.
    Consider the possibility that the shoe is on the other foot, that I'm right and you're wrong. Consider that these websites are engaging in the practice you accuse me of indulging in.

    Still, it's true, in a way, that our tax system remains technically progressive simply because nobody above a certain percentile of income makes enough money to possess a share in the trading pool that isn't undermined by excessive debt. You can only seriously tax rich people because rich people are the only people that seriously have any money. When 1% of your country owns 40% of the economy, you would expect that.

    Still, the contributions of a company like Apple are vastly lower than the benefits it received from American infrastructure and security, which is why we rely on foreign money lenders to make ends meet.

    yeah. The right wing doesn't want to reform our sclerotic, destructive, inhibiting, choking, incomprehensible unbeatable maze of a tax code.
    Indeed. If you could realize that, you would be a step closer to realizing the true nature of power and ambition in the United States and what exactly the goals and priorities of our leadership are.

    Consider two expensive bloated military projects from Lockheed Martin which happen to be spread out over 40+ states with the lobbying support of hundreds of congressmen. Is the highest priority to ensure we have the best and most efficient war-making ability for the 21st century, or making sure that Lockheed Martin doesn't suffer the consequences of its own incompetence and inability to supply the capabilities that they promised and time frames that were specified? For which reason they rewarded with the contract?

    There's no need to reform something you can destroy with a thousand cuts.

    on the contrary - size of living arrangements is indeed pat of ones' quality of life. So is access to things like air conditioning and automobiles. Our poor include people who would not be counted as such in Europe.
    Poverty in America is measured in private debt and reliance on welfare. Our poor people have commodities they can't afford and houses they can't pay off, and because they have those things they can't afford to contribute to the tax pool. Part of how the Scandinavian countries keep their welfare systems manageable is by ensuring balanced participation in the trading pool from all level of society, sufficient so that nearly every citizen is capable of contributing to the public welfare.

    Our poverty is vastly excessive compared to other developed nations by any metric.
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    In recent history and entirely contrary to popular opinion? Trade liberalization.
    Is that the same thing as free trade? Or am I misunderstanding...
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    Re: How is poverty best eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Is that the same thing as free trade? Or am I misunderstanding...
    Yeah, you got it.

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