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    Re: Is Obama right to go back into Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its not specifically ISIS thats the threat-its the threat from Islamists across the globe-and the impact they have on Western and other free nations. A 7th century ideology vs the modern wests ideology. The threats from this throwback to the dark ages on upcoming nations in Africa and Asia.

    If anything, I'd modify my statement not just from Soviets, but communists in general.
    You are entitled to your opinion.

    I refer you once again to Reagan;s statements from his memoirs that I posted above.

    He realized that staying neutral was the best course of action...and he was right.

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    Re: Is Obama right to go back into Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    you are a unique case and should understand me not needing to name every possible political ideology.
    Why is it so hard to put "I am neither" as a choice?

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    Re: Is Obama right to go back into Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You are entitled to your opinion.

    I refer you once again to Reagan;s statements from his memoirs that I posted above.

    He realized that staying neutral was the best course of action...and he was right.
    If 9/11 or children being beheaded for being Christian Reagan happened would have been in there striking like the hand of god. Unlike the modern left, morality and doing what was right was not just something thrown around in election season.

    Maybe you think since Im an evil conservative that you can use Reagan like some sort of holy water-but its not going to happen.

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    Re: Is Obama right to go back into Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Why is it so hard to put "I am neither" as a choice?
    I dont cater to the fringe for a general poll. If you dont lean right/left what exactly are you? Nevermind lets not distract from the thread-im done with this discussion.

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    Re: Is Obama right to go back into Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    If 9/11 or children being beheaded for being Christian Reagan would have been in there striking like the hand of god. Unlike the modern left, morality and doing what was right was not just something thrown around in election season.
    You have no idea what he would do. Neither do I.

    But his memoirs strongly suggest he would NOT have invaded Iraq.

    Attack Afghanistan to get bin Laden...sure. But not get involved in a quagmire...especially after bin Laden was killed.

    You disagree? I suggest you consult a Ouija board and ask him...because there is zero chance you are changing my mind.


    Good day.

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    Re: Is Obama right to go back into Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont cater to the fringe for a general poll. If you dont lean right/left what exactly are you? Nevermind lets not distract from the thread-im done with this discussion.
    Right, because centrism is totally fringe.

    You can put "I'm not an American" as an option on a primarily American occupied forum, but you can't add one more option for people who refuse to be categorized in an intentionally simplistic political chart? Libertarians, centrists, independents, and "others" happen to make up the majority of this forum. Most people don't identify completely with the left/right paradigm.

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    Re: Is Obama right to go back into Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You have no idea what he would do. Neither do I.

    But his memoirs strongly suggest he would NOT have invaded Iraq.

    Attack Afghanistan to get bin Laden...sure. But not get involved in a quagmire...especially after bin Laden was killed.

    You disagree? I suggest you consult a Ouija board and ask him...because there is zero chance you are changing my mind.


    Good day.
    We aren't talking about the invasion of Iraq (over and done with) we are talking about what to do NOW, in light of recent developments.
    The war on terror was NEVER about getting one man-and to leave both Iraq and Afghanistan worse than when we got there, with a newly forming terrorist state simply boggles the mind.

    We are there to destroy our enemies and plant fear in their hearts, and to let them no that there is no timeline for this-as long as they bring it-death will be the response. We got quite good at fighting low intensity counter insurgency operations since 9/11-we need to keep it up and as importantly SUPPORT OUR ALLIES, instead of leaving them to the terrorist wolves-these thugs hate EVERYONE including fellow muslims and other nations who have nothing to do with them-its a pandemic.

    This is what we should do-expose them to large amounts of kinetic energy and send em back to allah in style.

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    Re: Is Obama right to go back into Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Right, because centrism is totally fringe.

    You can put "I'm not an American" as an option on a primarily American occupied forum, but you can't add one more option for people who refuse to be categorized in an intentionally simplistic political chart? Libertarians, centrists, independents, and "others" happen to make up the majority of this forum. Most people don't identify completely with the left/right paradigm.
    Even centrists lean. And I thought you were saying you weren't centrist either.

    Heres your homework, lets see how "centrist" you are.
    http://politics.beasts.org/scripts/survey
    Last edited by US Conservative; 08-12-14 at 12:45 AM.

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    Re: Is Obama right to go back into Iraq?

    I think we should arm and train the Kurds and support them with airstrikes as we're doing. We spend money all around the world every year to help local governments fight terrorists using arms, training, and airstrikes, and the forces we help are often far more incompetent and corrupt then the Kurds. So why not help the Kurds in this way? The only reason that I can think of for why we'd help someone like the Nigerian government, but not the Kurds is the politics of American intervention in Iraq. Look, we might not be able to destroy Isis. The Shiites politicians might have damaged their cause beyond repair. The Gulf states might prefer jihadists to Iranian interests. The region may be screwed indefinitely. Yet, helping the Kurds is something simple we can do easily that gives the region a chance. After lavishing all that equipment on the Shiites only to see them abandon it and run, why not give some weapons to someone that actually wants to fight? And on top of that, we kind of owe the Kurds, and this might help prevent a humanitarian catastrophe.

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    Re: Is Obama right to go back into Iraq?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Even centrists lean.
    The whole point of centrism is that you don't lean.

    And I thought you were saying you weren't centrist either
    When did I say that? I'm definitely pretty centrist. I even straddle the fence on economics.

    Heres your homework, lets see how "centrist" you are.
    I took the quiz. I got "left-pragmatist" while trending very close to the center. I don't like that quiz though, I felt like alot of the questions were unnecessary and even one-sided at times.

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