View Poll Results: Is obesity being glamorized and should it be?

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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I haven't encountered any media which glamorises obesity.
    I've seen a push to glamorize it over the past decade or more, mostly by advertisers trying to take advantage of a new market. Other than that, though, we're seeing plus size women in more television shows. I think we need to be careful about the fine line between obesity being acceptable enough not to ridicule it, but also avoid making it desirable. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just really don't believe that many people can really and HONESTLY say that they don't mind if their significant other gets obese. I'm not talking about just a little overweight, but obese, like the woman in the op is.

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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    I want to start off by saying that I believe that beauty is entirely subjective and that everyone is beautiful depending on their own self-perception and the perception of the individual looking at them. That said It has become apparent that in the crusade to combat insensitive attitudes towards obese people that the reality of what obesity remains to be has been lost.

    On facebook a plus sized model posted a photo of herself in a bikini. She is indeed beautiful and this thread is not about whether or not obesity is beautiful it's about the medical consensus regarding obesity. Being obese is health hazard, it increases the likelihood of a great many life shortening illnesses and diseases. So when in the comments of that photo I see people celebrating her for being an icon and symbol for those like her and others it becomes a tad worrying. It sends a very serious message that in effect demeans the medical aspects of obesity.

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    Then in this article, one of many, there is a very strong shift in perception of fitness and health with men. In it, titled "Real Men", the author establishes a new stereotype. Comparing photos of men who are a tad chubby and not fit to athletic counterparts the article insists that the former is an example of real men and "reality" and that the latter are absurd ideals being pushed on men. Insisting that athletic male models are the equivalent of the negative female model stereotype of "anorexic beauty". The true absurdity being that for men, who are anatomically and biologically engineered for easier muscle gain, being athletic is not in any way impossible or unrealistic especially at a young age.

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    The change in perception is all very jarring and worrisome. There is nothing wrong with promoting beauty in all it's forms, but if the cost is to ignore health and fitness so that we can become complacent with average health and fitness practices or worse complacent with being obese then what message is being sent out to the public, especially children?
    Personally I find it pointless to worry about such things. If people want to be fat, or skinny or fit or some combination, then exactly how is it any of my business? So what if a particular body type is emphasized in the media more than another for a while. What's it got to do with me or mine? Last I checked most of us were not professional models of any kind and didn't live with them either. How exactly does it cost me or mine what someone wants to put on their media be it video or print? Why should I or anyone care? If you are a normal human being you can get along fine in this world despite whatever pictures the media wishes put up regarding their current fetish of the moment.
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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Obesity is horrible...physically and emotionally.

    And as America gets fatter and fatter, more and more people are going to be in denial about it and try to make it seem more desirable.

    Never underestimate the power of the human mind to convince oneself of almost anything.


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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    DO you watch mainstream channels?
    No. I haven't owned a TV in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    I mean your older, it's a generational thing. It may be that the things you watch and the stuff that appeals to you wouldn't give you an accurate perception of how today's generation perceives obesity.
    I watch shows online so that I can see what I want see when I want to see it. The few shows I watch are for entertainment, like adult cartoons, verious History Channel shows like Pawn Stars, How It's Made, Life After People, etc. I don't watch any mainstream news media, I look up select news sources online for headlins that jump out at me and I don't watch the 24/hr news cycle. No Bill O'Riley, non of that.

    After my big move next year I plan to get a nice TV, but I forsee it technicaly being a second screen for a tablet, I don't forsee a cable subscription.

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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Personally I find it pointless to worry about such things. If people want to be fat, or skinny or fit or some combination, then exactly how is it any of my business? So what if a particular body type is emphasized in the media more than another for a while. What's it got to do with me or mine? Last I checked most of us were not professional models of any kind and didn't live with them either. How exactly does it cost me or mine what someone wants to put on their media be it video or print? Why should I or anyone care? If you are a normal human being you can get along fine in this world despite whatever pictures the media wishes put up regarding their current fetish of the moment.
    It matters, to me, if children are being told that it is okay to be obese. They are the future of this society.
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    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    It matters, to me, if children are being told that it is okay to be obese. They are the future of this society.
    Whose children? Mine yours? Why would I worry about your children? Why would you worry about mine? I assure you, I don't know your children and don't wish to,and don't care what they are told. I care what MINE are told and make sure they get the proper messages from the proper sources their mother and myself and my family. Who cares what somebody else not family says or thinks? I have very little control over others thoughts and decisions. It is pointless to attempt to control that which you have no possibility of control. People come in all shapes and sizes, and its best to realize that.
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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    I practices or worse complacent with being obese then what message is being sent out to the public, especially children?
    The guy looks like an average guy and the girl is fat. Obese in fact... Plain and simple. She is not pretty and she is not glamorous.
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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I've seen a push to glamorize it over the past decade or more, mostly by advertisers trying to take advantage of a new market. Other than that, though, we're seeing plus size women in more television shows. I think we need to be careful about the fine line between obesity being acceptable enough not to ridicule it, but also avoid making it desirable. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just really don't believe that many people can really and HONESTLY say that they don't mind if their significant other gets obese. I'm not talking about just a little overweight, but obese, like the woman in the op is.

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    When beautiful but shallow model-wannabe Deb dies in a car accident, her soul resurfaces in the person of Jane, a queen-size attorney who is brilliant and well-liked ... or the exact opposite of Deb. Now, by a twist of fate, Deb must come to terms with inhabiting Jane's curvier frame in an ultimate showdown between brains and beauty.
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    No person that cares about their health or looks will ever say... gee, fat looks good to and I will just eat some twinkies now.
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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Haven't read the entire thread and will go back to read, but I'd like to ask the OP this: While I agree that obesity is unhealthy, and dangerous to encourage - would you be making the same type of thread over people who post themselves smoking cigarettes on Facebook? Or any other type of behavior that is unsafe and unhealthy?
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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Haven't read the thread but no. I don't see a bunch of little girls wanting to look like honey boo boo, and most women don't look at that pic and think, ooh, I wish I looked like that. I take physical fitness seriously. I'm in the gym 5 days a week and eat moderately. I wanna live a long life and look and feel good while doing it!

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