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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Not yet mentioned is PPACA and its total acceptance of obesity as a normal health condition. While the First Lady goes on a crusade to fight obesity, our President's signature health care madness refuses to allow insurance premiums to be adjusted upward for obesity - yet they may be for age which is neither preventable nor reversible. The official government message seems to be that it is cool, or at least acceptable, to let your body accumulate excess fat even though it has known and serious negative heath consequences.

    Yeah, the coddling is doing some damage. Whether or not people agree that it is being glamorized, I def believe we are well on our way to that. And subjectivity of beauty put aside there is danger in sending that sort of complacent message to the public, especially youth.
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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    I want to start off by saying that I believe that beauty is entirely subjective and that everyone is beautiful depending on their own self-perception and the perception of the individual looking at them. That said It has become apparent that in the crusade to combat insensitive attitudes towards obese people that the reality of what obesity remains to be has been lost.

    On facebook a plus sized model posted a photo of herself in a bikini. She is indeed beautiful and this thread is not about whether or not obesity is beautiful it's about the medical consensus regarding obesity. Being obese is health hazard, it increases the likelihood of a great many life shortening illnesses and diseases. So when in the comments of that photo I see people celebrating her for being an icon and symbol for those like her and others it becomes a tad worrying. It sends a very serious message that in effect demeans the medical aspects of obesity.

    https://www.facebook.com/TessMunster...e=1&permPage=1



    Then in this article, one of many, there is a very strong shift in perception of fitness and health with men. In it, titled "Real Men", the author establishes a new stereotype. Comparing photos of men who are a tad chubby and not fit to athletic counterparts the article insists that the former is an example of real men and "reality" and that the latter are absurd ideals being pushed on men. Insisting that athletic male models are the equivalent of the negative female model stereotype of "anorexic beauty". The true absurdity being that for men, who are anatomically and biologically engineered for easier muscle gain, being athletic is not in any way impossible or unrealistic especially at a young age.

    If 'Real Men' Posed In Underwear Ads



    The change in perception is all very jarring and worrisome. There is nothing wrong with promoting beauty in all it's forms, but if the cost is to ignore health and fitness so that we can become complacent with average health and fitness practices or worse complacent with being obese then what message is being sent out to the public, especially children?
    I haven't encountered any media which glamorises obesity.

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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    The biggest issue I have is that this woman is considered plus size:

    Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?-plus-jpg

    Give me a ****ing break.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I haven't encountered any media which glamorises obesity.
    DO you watch mainstream channels? Bravo, Mtv, Vh1, Fox, Ktla, some recent romance movies - etc. It's great that obesity is no longer mocked, but it inching into something different.

    I mean your older, it's a generational thing. It may be that the things you watch and the stuff that appeals to you wouldn't give you an accurate perception of how today's generation perceives obesity.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    The biggest issue I have is that this woman is considered plus size:

    Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?-plus-jpg

    Give me a ****ing break.
    lol. Yes there is still an issue with underweight individuals as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    lol. Yes there is still an issue with underweight individuals as well.
    Bottom line, IMO, our own personal views are skewed as to what is 'normal.' The model I posted--to me--is about perfect. But being a size 12, I have little doubt that some will think she's a fat pig, or, at the very least, chubby. But hey, at least she gets to eat 3 healthy meals a day.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Bottom line, IMO, our own personal views are skewed as to what is 'normal.' The model I posted--to me--is about perfect. But being a size 12, I have little doubt that some will think she's a fat pig, or, at the very least, chubby. But hey, at least she gets to eat 3 healthy meals a day.
    Oh no I agree the model is a good healthy size, I was commenting on the underlying issue you where addressing in your post. That media still contributes to the issue that leads many women to being to thin. I think it's going both ways now. THe leniency given to obesity may lead many into thinking. "what the hell I don't care" and they'll become obese and then on the other side media is also pressuring to stay thin. It's weird, but it's happening you can see it on tv and on the social media.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I've always noticed on facebook, that women who are absurdly obese and men who are married to absurdly obese women, will put out posts like "Real men love women with curves" or "No one wants to cuddle a stick". Then there are the requisite photos of a curvy and sexy lingerie model who is a little overweight juxtaposed against Nicole Richie at her anorexic worst telling men that curvy women are sexier, as if men were lusting after Nicole Richie in droves (I know not one man who has ever mentioned her in regards to....well...anything). Honestly, I think men are much more accepting of women's bodies than women are of each others. We are not that picky. Yes, Kate Upton's of the world turn our heads. But that doesn't exclude us from finding other body types attractive.

    As far as men having negative body images, it's out there I guess but I'm not sure if it is a growing problem or if there is just more awareness it exists in small numbers. If anything, our egos are more performance driven than being dominated by weight scales.
    My favorite is the one with a similar slogan, using a paparazzi shot of a very thin 6-foot tall model who's a size 6, against a clearly photoshopped professional picture of a model who's also 6 feet tall, but a size 14.

    First of all, shaming thin women and trying to put them in the worst light possible is not very "body accepting." It reeks of either cattiness or jealousy.

    Second of all, the size of a woman who is so dramatically taller than average is quite deceptive. Size 6 is not skinny on a normal build woman who's 5'5". Size 14 is much bigger on a normal woman who's 5'5".

    And finally, if the supposed belief of body acceptance is that women should love themselves and find their worth from within rather than from the media, then telling them they should be bigger because "men like it" or "you're not a real woman otherwise" is rather defeating the point. It's still telling women that their worth comes from what other people think of them, and not from their own inherent value as a human being.
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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Oh no I agree the model is a good healthy size, I was commenting on the underlying issue you where addressing in your post. That media still contributes to the issue that leads many women to being to thin. I think it's going both ways now. THe leniency given to obesity may lead many into thinking. "what the hell I don't care" and they'll become obese and then on the other side media is also pressuring to stay thin. It's weird, but it's happening you can see it on tv and on the social media.
    While I do agree that here's been a push to be more 'fat' accepting, it is no where near where you think it is on the grand scale. Even Kate Winslet still gets heavily Photoshopped and I do not see that trend stopping one iota.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Is Obesity in America Being Glamorized and should it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Bottom line, IMO, our own personal views are skewed as to what is 'normal.' The model I posted--to me--is about perfect. But being a size 12, I have little doubt that some will think she's a fat pig, or, at the very least, chubby. But hey, at least she gets to eat 3 healthy meals a day.
    Exactly. There just can't be "normal" anymore -- and I agree, that looks like a normal woman to me.

    I wish if modeling agencies want to pretend to embrace different shapes, when they say "plus size," they'd actually use someone plus sized, not just "really tall and average weight."

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