View Poll Results: Why isnt the US on the metric system?

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  • The public is too stupid to change

    13 33.33%
  • Conservatives. Its why we cant have good things.

    9 23.08%
  • Liberals. Its why we cant have good things

    1 2.56%
  • The rest of the world should switch to the US system!

    3 7.69%
  • The downside of change is greater than the upside, and I'm a short term thinker.

    0 0%
  • Who needs the metric system? My moms basement is all in inches.

    2 5.13%
  • I have no idea. Not changing is absolutely stupid.

    14 35.90%
  • Its a French idea.

    3 7.69%
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Thread: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    It's accurate when one attributes metric to it.

    for instance, 1 tablespoon is 14.78mL. That's where it's accuracy comes from. Like you pointed out, it's 7.39mL in metric. In metric.

    If you didn't have the conversion in metric, what would you have.

    So when you tell someone to put half a tablespoon into a chemical reaction, if you don't do the conversion to metric, you have nothing. Imprecision. Where as with metric, you tell the guy to put this many grams or this many mL into the solution. Precision.


    It's not easier to manipulate and not easier to deal with. That's the common misconception. Usually held by people who can't admit that they're wrong.
    The accuracy of a tablespoon doesn't come from metric. They are both arbitrary units, each ultimately traceable to a fiat standard. For instance, I could just as easily say 1 ml = 0.06762805 tablespoon.

    I really don't understand the drive for unit homogenization. Diversity is a good thing, as is letting people use the units they want to use. Basically, there's no real advantage to changing the current standards, so why incur the cost and headache? If people want to use metric, no body is stopping them. I use both every day with no problems, so what's the big deal.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Shortsightedness and insular thinking, topped off with a touch of paranoia of big gummint. Its why we cant have good things.
    Nonsense. The system has been just fine for the past couple hundred years and will survive, if we do, a couple hundred more. Has nothing to do with paranoia of government and we already do have good things.

    Esperanto failed too. Get over it.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    There is no need to fix something that is not broken. However, most likely the United States will go to the metric system slowly over time, which is must better than our power hungry federal government shoving it down our throats.

    The United States is already going metric to a certain extent, for example many people refer to their car engines size in liters instead of cubic inches. Sodas bottles are in liters. And on several items the metric equivalent amounts are always listed.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen.Seven View Post
    The accuracy of a tablespoon doesn't come from metric. They are both arbitrary units, each ultimately traceable to a fiat standard. For instance, I could just as easily say 1 ml = 0.06762805 tablespoon.

    I really don't understand the drive for unit homogenization. Diversity is a good thing, as is letting people use the units they want to use. Basically, there's no real advantage to changing the current standards, so why incur the cost and headache? If people want to use metric, no body is stopping them. I use both every day with no problems, so what's the big deal.
    No, diversity is a good thing when diversity is good and diversity is a stupid thing when diversity is a stupid thing.

    Diversity in units of measurement is a stupid thing.

    Again, it's not my problem. But when you look at the numbers you'll see that last year for the first time, Mexico surpassed the USA in engineering graduates by about 10k people. Mexico has 1/3rd the population. Now, ofc, this isn't down the metric system alone. It's a combination of factors, but one of the many factors that make Mexico, as of last year, a more engineering happy country than the USA is the fact that people don't have a disconnect between scientific measurement education and plebean one. In other words, both in and out of work, they use meters and liters and everything else that makes life simple.

    Besides, the US is hypocritical.
    You already use the metric system in the 2 things american love the most.
    Coca Cola (2L of cola) and guns (9mm, 7.62mm, you know, the important stuff). So stop being hypocrites, adopt the metric system all the way and be happy.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Shortsightedness and insular thinking, topped off with a touch of paranoia of big gummint. Its why we cant have good things.
    The government can't really give you good things. I know you will mention the internet, but you should take note of the fact that the infrastructure is dependent on government. That is a problem in case you didn't know.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Great. How about half a half gallon?

    And please don't tell me it's harder to remember a decimal point that how many cups/pints/quarts are in the half gallon.
    1/4 of a gallon.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    No, diversity is a good thing when diversity is good and diversity is a stupid thing when diversity is a stupid thing.

    Diversity in units of measurement is a stupid thing.

    Again, it's not my problem. But when you look at the numbers you'll see that last year for the first time, Mexico surpassed the USA in engineering graduates by about 10k people. Mexico has 1/3rd the population. Now, ofc, this isn't down the metric system alone. It's a combination of factors, but one of the many factors that make Mexico, as of last year, a more engineering happy country than the USA is the fact that people don't have a disconnect between scientific measurement education and plebean one. In other words, both in and out of work, they use meters and liters and everything else that makes life simple.

    Besides, the US is hypocritical.
    You already use the metric system in the 2 things american love the most.
    Coca Cola (2L of cola) and guns (9mm, 7.62mm, you know, the important stuff). So stop being hypocrites, adopt the metric system all the way and be happy.
    We're not at all hypocritical, that's just silly. Soda comes in liters because business used the government's absurd forced switch over to run a scam on the consumer. The consumer would have been just fine buying quarts.

    As for guns, they're international. Just as English is the international business language, metrics are the international language of measurements. We need to speak that language if we're involved in international measurements. But most of us aren't in any sort of everyday manner.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Everyone who needs to use the metric system uses it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Porchev View Post
    which is must better than our power hungry federal government shoving it down our throats.
    Lol, relax. It's to our benefit, they don't really get anything out of it.
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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    No, diversity is a good thing when diversity is good and diversity is a stupid thing when diversity is a stupid thing.

    Diversity in units of measurement is a stupid thing.

    Again, it's not my problem. But when you look at the numbers you'll see that last year for the first time, Mexico surpassed the USA in engineering graduates by about 10k people. Mexico has 1/3rd the population. Now, ofc, this isn't down the metric system alone. It's a combination of factors, but one of the many factors that make Mexico, as of last year, a more engineering happy country than the USA is the fact that people don't have a disconnect between scientific measurement education and plebean one. In other words, both in and out of work, they use meters and liters and everything else that makes life simple.

    Besides, the US is hypocritical.
    You already use the metric system in the 2 things american love the most.
    Coca Cola (2L of cola) and guns (9mm, 7.62mm, you know, the important stuff). So stop being hypocrites, adopt the metric system all the way and be happy.
    If someone can't manage such a simple thing as diverse measurement systems, there's no way they could handle the more complicated concepts in engineering. That's just an absurd contention.

    Secondly, guns also come in .45, .38, .357, .223, .308, so that's an equally absurd advantage. (And, no, 223 and 308 are not exactly the same thing as 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm).

    Finally, it would be more advantageous if the US standardized on a common language, or even multiple ones, than changing an already existing srandard.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen.Seven View Post
    The accuracy of a tablespoon doesn't come from metric. They are both arbitrary units, each ultimately traceable to a fiat standard. For instance, I could just as easily say 1 ml = 0.06762805 tablespoon.

    I really don't understand the drive for unit homogenization. Diversity is a good thing, as is letting people use the units they want to use. Basically, there's no real advantage to changing the current standards, so why incur the cost and headache? If people want to use metric, no body is stopping them. I use both every day with no problems, so what's the big deal.
    I guess when your water bill starts to charge you in drams, you might want to have standardization.
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