View Poll Results: Why isnt the US on the metric system?

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  • The public is too stupid to change

    13 33.33%
  • Conservatives. Its why we cant have good things.

    9 23.08%
  • Liberals. Its why we cant have good things

    1 2.56%
  • The rest of the world should switch to the US system!

    3 7.69%
  • The downside of change is greater than the upside, and I'm a short term thinker.

    0 0%
  • Who needs the metric system? My moms basement is all in inches.

    2 5.13%
  • I have no idea. Not changing is absolutely stupid.

    14 35.90%
  • Its a French idea.

    3 7.69%
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Thread: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Arguable.

    I read your prior statements including the long one at #78 or smth.

    While true, for weather maybe Fahrenheit is better, as in, public information about weather. The weatherman on tv telling people if it's gonna be hot or warm.

    But for calculation, celcius is better. So for scientific weather predictions, temperature calculations, etc, celcius is better. It also makes calculation conversions to and from kelvin a lot easier and more precise than with fahrenheit.

    But then again, nobody cares about the weather that much. I mean, when the weatherman tells me that it's gonna be a maximum of 26 degrees, I know how to dress. It doesn't impact me. It's not like if it turns out to be 28 degrees that I'd melt if I were dressed for 26degrees C. So the advantage, if you wanna call it, of F over C from this perspective is minimalist while the advantage of C in everything else is obvious.
    No argument about academic and laboratory uses. Scientists will use what ever is more scientifically expedient. That is expected.
    Though for the public use, Fahrenheit just makes more sense ... AND all Americans already understand it and are use to it.
    The American public would gain no advantage from using the Celsius scale for weather description.
    If a meteorologist wants to tell us what the temperature is in Canada, he can do the calculation into Fahrenheit ... That's part of his job.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    No argument about academic and laboratory uses. Scientists will use what ever is more scientifically expedient. That is expected.
    Though for the public use, Fahrenheit just makes more sense ... AND all Americans already understand it and are use to it.
    The American public would gain no advantage from using the Celsius scale for weather description.
    If a meteorologist wants to tell us what the temperature is in Canada, he can do the calculation into Fahrenheit ... That's part of his job.
    Yeah, well, again, I have no problem with the fahrenheit system. I understand why people who are used to it will like, I am just pointing out that the so-called advantage is minimal and really, not all that important. It's a pseudo-advantage as people who are used to the celcius, like I am, don't have any problem understanding it and accommodating to it.

    However, this temperature measurement is not glued to the metric system and that's the topic here.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    No argument about academic and laboratory uses. Scientists will use what ever is more scientifically expedient. That is expected.
    Though for the public use, Fahrenheit just makes more sense ... AND all Americans already understand it and are use to it.
    The American public would gain no advantage from using the Celsius scale for weather description.
    If a meteorologist wants to tell us what the temperature is in Canada, he can do the calculation into Fahrenheit ... That's part of his job.
    The objective of using Celsius is that it aligns the U.S. with international standards, weather everywhere else is done in celsius.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    The objective of using Celsius is that it aligns the U.S. with international standards, weather everywhere else is done in celsius.
    Weather is local... and when weather concerns are not local, they are reported to us by a local meteorologist.He can make the translation. He wouldn't report about a rainstorm in France using the French language either.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post

    However, this temperature measurement is not glued to the metric system and that's the topic here.
    Exactly my point.
    When the country was asked to convert to the metric system we were asked to give up our superior weather temperature scale at the same time.
    The Celsius scale has nothing to do with the metric system and should never have been tied to the program.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Exactly my point.
    When the country was asked to convert to the metric system we were asked to give up our superior weather temperature scale at the same time.
    The Celsius scale has nothing to do with the metric system and should never have been tied to the program.
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    You're kinda missing the point dude.
    This is such BS.

    The "superior" part there is basically a lie, or at least, an exaggeration the size of an elephant. It's no better than celcius because as I said, repeatedly, if you're accustomed to C, you're not going to have a problem with understanding the weather outside. For crying out loud, it's the god damn weather. It's not like your life is dependent on it.
    You're doing yourself and the rest of americans a disservice. Because when you travel to Europe, on the local TVs here, you won't see the weather in F, but in C. And guess what, that goes double and triple for the rest of the world because almost everyone else uses C.


    Also, when the country was asked to convert to the metric system, don't act as if the weather report was THAT IMPORTANT to the american people that it was a dealbreaker. No. It was the fact that people like many in this thread, like jamesrage or whatever, who cannot understand that the imperial system is ****. Won't accept that. Because apparently, 'murica can't have no nothing that ain't da best.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    The 4th solution is best I think:

    "The whole world should change to US system!" instead.

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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Exactly my point.
    When the country was asked to convert to the metric system we were asked to give up our superior weather temperature scale at the same time.
    The Celsius scale has nothing to do with the metric system and should never have been tied to the program.
    While fahrenheit does have a higher resolution when using whole numbers, that resolution, as Rainman pointed out, is effectively useless. The human body can not really tell a difference between 2-3 degrees fahrenheit. The scientific and meteorological communities overwhelmingly uses celsius, and the average citizen gets absolutely no benefit whatsoever from the insignificantly higher integer resolution from fahrenheit.

    Celsius and SI are inevitably linked. Just about all scientific formula and units based off of temperature values use celsius as the core. Adopting the highly superior SI system without accepting the temperature scale with it just needlessly complicates things. It really just comes down to tradition and habits. People don't like change. Hell, I'll even admit, I work in SI all day long and I still convert my weight and sometimes temperature to imperial because that's how my brain was taught to reference those values. This is only because that was the system I was raised under as a child, not because it has any intrinsic advantages.
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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    The U.S. isn't a hipster, literally everyone else in the world uses it.
    Everyone else in the world could be jumping off a cliff,I am not going to join them just because everybody else is doing it.
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    Re: Why doesn't the US use the metric system??

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Everyone else in the world could be jumping off a cliff,I am not going to join them just because everybody else is doing it.
    Metric is an international standard which the U.S. should follow, there are standards for doing business not something that could harm anyone.

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