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    Re: Are Labor and Trade Unions Still Necessary in Our Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Did I say I was a "red herring"? Was just stating a fact.
    One that does not change his statement of FACT. Unions are shills for the democrat party.

    Im reminded of the guy who goes to the dentist and is told he has a cavity-to which he replies "yeah but they aren't ALL cavities".

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    Re: Are Labor and Trade Unions Still Necessary in Our Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    One that does not change his statement of FACT. Unions are shills for the democrat party.
    All I stated is that some money goes to the GOP especially on the state level....


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    Re: Are Labor and Trade Unions Still Necessary in Our Economy?

    I see a bunch of people talking about the usefulness of unions but none of them are actually in one. Let me give you some quick facts about my two jobs:

    Green Tokai
    Maysville, KY
    Pay: $14.60 an hour (as a class 1, most jobs pay $12, highest paying hourly job is $18 and that is an engineer tech)
    Days it takes to get FMLA: Federal guidelines
    Dayes it takes to get vacation time and sick time: A year holidays paid though
    Time it takes to get insurance: 3 months after hire, insurance is $25 a week for family dental and vision are extra
    Time it takes to get 401k: Depends on the time of the year, will match up to 50 cents of 6%
    Union: no

    Aristech Acrylics
    Florence, KY
    Pay: $17 an hour for "Tier 2" $19 for "Tier 1" all employees will be merged into Tier 1 by October. $1 more on the hour for leads (which I am)
    Time it takes to get insurance: Instant, insurance has a free option, pay extra for vision and dental
    Days it takes to get FMLA: Company chooses not to follow federal guideline, get it from day 1
    Days it takes to get vacation and sick time: Day 1, one week vacation, one week sick leave. Even has paid vacation on bull**** holidays like Veterans Day and MLK Day
    Time it takes to get 401k: Instant, company automatically contributes the value of 3% of your earnings, not taking it out of your earnings, but the percentage out of their pockets. Matches $1 up to 6%.
    Union: Yes

    So the choice is clear.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Are Labor and Trade Unions Still Necessary in Our Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    All I stated is that some money goes to the GOP especially on the state level....
    The overwhelming majority goes to the democrat party. Lets not pretend its even close. You wouldn't want to paint a false picture, would you?

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    Re: Are Labor and Trade Unions Still Necessary in Our Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The overwhelming majority goes to the democrat party. Lets not pretend its even close. You wouldn't want to paint a false picture, would you?
    My intent was never to paint a false picture. Just stated what happens in my state.


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    Re: Are Labor and Trade Unions Still Necessary in Our Economy?

    Being a member of both the cement masons union and the freemasons has been very beneficial to me.

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    Re: Are Labor and Trade Unions Still Necessary in Our Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    My intent was never to paint a false picture. Just stated what happens in my state.
    And we know the accurate picture is unions are overwhelmingly a dem thing. Moving on.

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    Re: Are Labor and Trade Unions Still Necessary in Our Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Being a member of both the cement masons union and the freemasons has been very beneficial to me.
    Random fact, you have to be a freemason to be a shriner.

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    Re: Are Labor and Trade Unions Still Necessary in Our Economy?

    They never really were. They were just a cheat rather than do the real work the right way. Allowed a whole lot of crooks to run a whole lot of rackets. Imagine if, instead of unions we had state law to protect workers.

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    Re: Are Labor and Trade Unions Still Necessary in Our Economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    And we know the accurate picture is unions are overwhelmingly a dem thing. Moving on.
    I never stated otherwise...................................


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