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    Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Simple question: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?


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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

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    in some ways yes....i am hoping that this president, and future ones get spanked by judges for exceeding their authority when using executive orders

    prior presidents had to deal with houses, or senates that were just as partisan....but they somehow got things done

    many a time i remember Tip Oneill making deals with presidents.....

    presidents should sign or veto laws....and then execute the ones they sign

    changing them to suit themselves or their political affiliations has to stop
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
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    in some ways yes....i am hoping that this president, and future ones get spanked by judges for exceeding their authority when using executive orders
    But executive orders are completely legal and constitutional.


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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    I'm not even sure what the point of the suit is. What relief are they seeking? I'm sure it's not money damages. Are they trying to get a court to invalidate the EO's? Didn't congress pass legislation to do the exact same thing as the orders shortly after the president signed them? Pretty much the only objective it seems the suit has is to be another way for Republicans to demonstrate how much they hate the president.
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    But executive orders are completely legal and constitutional.
    Legal Executive Orders .... not the subject.

    The improper use is the subject.

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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    But executive orders are completely legal and constitutional.
    Not when they transcend the legal jurisdiction of the office. The President has specific powers laid out in the constitution and when he acts outside of those powers he is, indeed, violating the constitution.

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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    The lawsuit is meant to make a statement. After all, wasn't it the President who said, "So sue me"?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I'm not even sure what the point of the suit is. What relief are they seeking? I'm sure it's not money damages. Are they trying to get a court to invalidate the EO's? Didn't congress pass legislation to do the exact same thing as the orders shortly after the president signed them? Pretty much the only objective it seems the suit has is to be another way for Republicans to demonstrate how much they hate the president.
    It's nothing but partisan politics as usual. If Obama were Republican, he'd be the savoir of the party. Just look at Bush. Essentially the same exact positions, but since he had an (R) next to his name he was a hero to the party. Now that we have a Democrat Bush, he's suddenly the arbitrator of everything that is evil in the world. He's a marxist, a fascist, a neo-nazi, a muslim, and a communist all rolled up into one. And, he's a hero to everyone that hated Bush.

    Hence why I hate political parties with a passion.

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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    I almost want to agree with the lawsuit because I don't like the abuse of power being shown by the President. but the lawsuit is not to fix or better our broken political system. The purpose of this lawsuit is for r's to fight and annoy d's. Just like d's do to r's. Our political system is not being used to better our country; it is being used for power and wealth. This lawsuit is just another example of that.
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    But executive orders are completely legal and constitutional.
    to a point, yes they are

    but when you exceed that point, you have usurped the power of the congress

    heaven forbid that a republican goes into the white house next, and summarily ends ALL welfare as an executive order

    you would have a ****fit....as would most people on the left side of aisle

    he/she is overstepping their authority with such an executive order....it should never be allowed

    i want ALL presidents reigned in....not just this one....but the next, and the one after that

    let's actually follow the few rules we still do have under the constitution
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