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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    is that all it said?

    or are there specifics laid out in the suit?

    btw...i am not an attorney....nor do i portray one on a debate forum board

    i read what you read....

    you can agree with the suit or not....no skin off my nose one way or the either

    maybe you should call the speaker if you need to know what he was thinking

    but...something tells me you are just trying to bait me into an argument

    thanks...but no thanks
    Just saying if you think someone should be sued shouldnt you know at least some of the details for why he is being sued instead of just jumping behind rhetoric?


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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    But executive orders are completely legal and constitutional.
    Executive orders are wonderfully manipulative tools to use when you can't get congress to do exactly what you want them to; especially after disparaging them in public.

    What a uniter.
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "He did not faithfully uphold the elections and he used illegal authority to enact laws". Again Ill ask you what has he done that is illegal?
    While I don't believe impeachment is in any way reasonable or intelligent at the moment, there is legitimate argument behind the notion that his failure to notify congress prior to the prisoner swap for Bowe Bergdahl was an illegal act.

    I don't believe any of his executive orders or the rest of his executive actions have been "illegal", as I don't believe that he did any of them with clear and purposeful intent to violate the constitution but truthfully believed he was acting faithfully in line with the constitution, but I do think there's a reasonable argument to be made that some of his executive orders and actions have potentially been unconstitutional in that they're outside the scope of what the President can do within the realm of our checks and balances.

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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Just saying if you think someone should be sued shouldnt you know at least some of the details for why he is being sued instead of just jumping behind rhetoric?

    what did i vote on the poll?

    and you seem to be apprehensive about the subject....care to expound on why?
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    sure, I support it.... it won't be successful ( the courts will kick it back to congress to handle as a political problem), but I support it nonetheless.


    nothing bad can come from it... only good.

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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    and the only "real power" that the house wields is the power of the purse

    yeah....i dont think many on that side want to use that power right before an election

    the time to use that has passed.....

    but if this continues, i wouldnt be surprised to see them use it once november elections are over
    I think if the GOP can gain the senate, the next two years will be mighty interesting.
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    What statement? That they're hypocrites and or that they're are too focused on petty partisanship to do anything productive? Those are really the only statements being made by this move IMHO.
    Both side are too partisan to be productive. The statement is dissatisfaction. Obama said "So sue me", so they are.
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Executive orders are wonderfully manipulative tools to use when you can't get congress to do exactly what you want them to; especially after disparaging them in public.

    What a uniter.
    Who do executive orders apply to? What do congressional laws apply to? Answer that and you will know the drastic difference.


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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Remember, these are the same republicans who shut down the government once because they couldn't get their way. Don't expect them to be rational.
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    It's become very apparent that there is nothing respectable about faith
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    Re: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Simple question: Do You Approve of the GOP's Lawsuit Against Obama?
    I do, because I think that this the power of the executive branch has been pushed much further than it was ever meant to. It's not a question of executive authority as many on the left would like it to be, it's more a question of a president who chooses unanimously to break the law on numerous occasions. No president, neither Republican or Democrat, should have the power to choose which laws they want to follow or not.

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